All the SCRIPTURES- in order- showing who God and Christ really are-
and just what the holy spirit really is!
The TWO THOUSAND YEAR Slander!
Trinity, Triune Godhead, God-the-Father, God-the-Son, God-the- Holy Ghost, the Holy Spirit, the Word, I AM, Nicene Creed, Church Fathers, Arian, etc!
For TWO THOUSAND YEARS the controversy over who Christ is or was has raged among thousands of groups all claiming their differing views to be based on the Bible! The fact is that most is based on CHURCH DOGMA, which distorts their view of the Bible.
The matter really CAN be easily cleared up WITH NO DOUBT by simply taking a closer look at the Bible, while setting Church Dogma aside!
This List will do this from the very START of the Bible (Genesis)- in ORDER- to the very END of it (Revelation).
We first start with the very first reference to the holy spirit:
Gen 1:2- And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit (or breath) of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Nothing here indicates a 'Ghost-God', much less two Other 'God-Persons/Natures/ Essences'... but there is MUCH more to come!'
Gen 1:26- And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness...
CHURCHianity has God talking to Himself/Themselves, but His son was there. Also, so too, were the rest of the angels-
Job 38:4-Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
5-Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6- On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone?
7- while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?
We don't know if the angels assisted God and Christ (they likely DID),
however, it doesn't matter; God was speaking to his family. He Himself later tells us that it was His SON
who "made" all things, and also that GOD created all things "THROUGH" him!
AND, being the Leader (Archangel) of the Messengers (Angels), the rest of the angels likely HELPED!
And, don't forget that WE - who are lower than angels- were made in His image, so the angels were, too!
Genesis 14:18-Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. He was priest of God Most High,
19- and he blessed Abram, saying, "Blessed be Abram by God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth.
20- And praise be to God Most High, who delivered your enemies into your hand."
Mysterious Melchizedek- a King of Salem (later known as JERUsalem), and a Priest of Jehovah! Nothing else is said
about him or his connection to God!
Now Gen 18 and 19, where three men (angels) appeared to Abraham and Lot. Clergy say it was the Trinity (Father, Son and Ghost] ... Let's see what the ACCOUNT says-
Gen 18:1-And Jehovah appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre. And he sat at the
tent-door in the heat of the day.
2-And he lifted up his eyes and saw, and behold, three men standing near
him. And when he saw [them], he ran to meet them from the tent-door, and bowed himself to the earth,
3-and said, Lord, if now I have found favor in thine eyes, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant.
4-Let now a little water be fetched, that ye may wash your feet, and restyourselves under the tree.
8-And he took thick and sweet milk, and the calf that he had dressed, and set
[it] before them; and he stood before them under the tree, and they ate.
9-And they said to him, Where is Sarah thy wife? And he said, Behold, in the tent.
10-And he said, I will certainly return to thee at [this] time of the year, and behold, Sarah thy wife shall have a son. And Sarah was listening at the tent-door, which was behind him.
11-Now Abraham and Sarah were old [and] advanced in age: it had ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women.
12-And Sarah laughed within herself, saying, After I am become old, shall I have pleasure, and my lord old?
13-And Jehovah said to Abraham, Why is this, that Sarah laughs, saying, "Shall I indeed bear, when I am become old?"
14-Is [any] matter too wonderful for Jehovah? At the time appointed I will
return to thee, at [this] time of the year, and Sarah shall have a son.
20-And Jehovah said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrahis great and their sin is very grievous,
21-I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come to me; and if not, I will know [it].
[No "Omnipresence"]
22-And the men turned thence, and went towards Sodom; and Abraham remained yet standing before Jehovah.
23-And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also cause the righteous to perish with the wicked?
33-And Jehovah went away when he had ended speaking to Abraham; and Abraham returned to his place.
Genesis 19
1-And the two angels came to Sodom at even. And Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. And Lot saw them, and rose up to meet them; and he bowed down, the face toward the ground.
15-And as the dawn arose, the angels urged Lot, saying,Up, take thy wife and thy two daughters who are present, lest thou perish in the iniquity of the city.
16-And as he lingered, the men laid hold on his hand, and on the hand of his wife, and on the hand of his two daughters, Jehovah being merciful to him; and they led him out, and set him without the city.
17-And it came to pass when they had brought them outside, that he said, "Escape for thy life: look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain: escape to the mountain, lest thou perish."
23-The sun rose upon the earth when Lot came to Zoar. 24-And Jehovah rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Jehovah out of heaven.
Now, what does the account show us?
Did Three Gods, or 'God-Persons/Natures/Essences' become "men" to visit Abraham and Sodom?
God-the-Father, God-the-Son, and God-the-Ghost doing all this...or Jehovah speaking and working thru these angels?
Notice that they are called "men", "angels" ,and "Jehovah" interchangably.
As we continue thru the Bible, you will see OTHER ac counts where an Angel is spoken of as "Jehovah"
( or "LORD" in most translations removing it) for the sole reason God is SPEAKING directly THRU them.
Moses later writes that no man can see God and live, as Jesus later did.
The Apostle John, too, later writes that no man HAS seen God, which indicates that He has used different angels and IMAGES to appear and represent Himself to man.
John, and MANY others DID see Jesus! (NOT God), and Abraham, too, sees ANGELS, not God- and certainly not THREE Almighty Gods!
The next biblical reference that gives insight as to who God is, is an account so strange that nearly EVERY PERSON ON EARTH TODAY has HEARD of it!
The account (Gen 18 and 19 above) shows Abraham and Sarah were VERY old- and that they were childless.
The angels TOLD him that God was going to enable them to have a son, which they did- Abraham being 100 years old!
( The son he had thru a concubine due to his wife's lack of faith, years earlier, - and by her INSISTANCE, was viewed by them AND GOD, as Illegitimate, and God made it clear that the blessings He had spoken about wouldn't be thru him,
but thru his ONLY son, he had with his WIFE WOULD be,)
Then, years later -
Gen 22 : 2 - Then God said, " Take your son, your only son, whom you love , Isaac , and go to the region of Moriah.
Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you."
(For very interesting reading look up info like: https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/mount-ebal-0012793 )
There are no details telling us the anguish Abraham must have felt - only that he didn't hesitate, getting up early in the morning , traveling to Moriah , and was about to slaughter his ONLY - BEGOTTEN SON as a sacrifice to his God, when an angel stops him!
Later, the apostle Paul said THIS about the event-
Heb 11:17- By faith Abraham offered Isaac, when he was tempted ; and he offered the one begotten [son],
which had taken the promises ; 18 - to whom it was said, For in Isaac the seed shall be called to thee. 19 - For he deemed, that God is mighty to raise him , yea , from death ; wherefore he took him also into a parable. - Wycliffe
Parable, Figurative Way, Illustrative Way, as different translations put it.
Illustrative of WHAT?
The Trinity of Father, a Ghost...and a Son?
It is not a co-incidence that Jehovah chose to refer to Jesus as His "Only-Begotten son"!
The pattern was foreshadowed by that event, and EVERYONE knew what an only-begotten son WAS, until the clergy got a hold of it, convincing all it just meant the Second God of the Trinity.
NOTHING in scripture even HINTS at that.
With Clever Spin they changed it from "son of God" to "God-the-Son"- the EXACT OPPOSITE!
The next account that gives us insight into the Identity of God is Exodus.
Ex 3:13 - And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, "What is his name?" What shall I say unto them?
14- And God said unto Moses, "I Shall Be As I Shall Be." [ https://exodus-314.com/part-i/exodus-314-in-judaism/exodus-314-in-jewish-bible-translations/] And He said, "So you shall say to the Children of Israel, "I Shall Be has sent me to you". [No "I am]
15- And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,
>>>> Jehovah, <<<< the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my NAME FOREVER, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
No mention of 'God-the-Son', nor 'God-the-Ghost'.
A Personal Name that would be FOREVER! Not "Jesus"!
Also notice that God NEVER says "If you listen to US, WE will bless you". etc. when speaking to man; He ALWAYS speaks in the first person!
This does not show 3 God-Beings, but ONE Personage.
For FOUR HUNDRED YEARS, the Jews who worshiped him were in bondage to Egypt, and, understandably, were starting to doubt he existed or cared. Thus he told Moses, whom He would use as a Word and a Spokesman, and arranged for his brother to speak FOR them, since Moses was poor at speaking -
Ex 4:15- You will speak with him and tell him what to say. I will help both you and him [to speak], and will teach you both what to do. 16- He will speak to the people for you. He will be your spokesman, and you will serve as God to him.
17- And take this staff in your hand that you will perform the signs with.
Note that being Spokesman for God is what THIS ALSO means~
Exodus 7:1 -And Jehovah said to Moses, " See, I have made thee God to Pharaoh;
and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. - Darby
So Moses "Was God" to Aaron and to Pharaoh... Just as Jesus "Was God" to the world.
Trying to cover this over, most translations add "like" (and similar) and a small "g"- even tho the biblical languages had no upper case-lower case distinctions...Even tho "like" IS what it means (as with John 1:1), that is not how it literally reads...
Heb 3:1- Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts
on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as our apostle ["sent-forth One"] and high priest.
2- He was faithful to the One who appointed him, >> just as <<< Moses was faithful in all God's house.
God is NOT an Apostle, is NOT a High Priest. JESUS is!
No 'Co-Equal' Fellow-Gods.
No Nameless Ghost-God .
The Only-Begotten son OF God, always faithful and loyal to the ONLY true God, Jehovah.
The next account giving us insight as to the nature & identity of God is found at Exodus 19.
The Israelites had just been delivered from Egypt, and God says He is going to appear before them all.
How will He do it? In a physical form, as the angels did with Abraham?
Does God HIMSELF become "a little lower than ANGELS", as Christ later did?
Ex 19: 9-And Jehovah said to Moses, Lo, I will come to thee in the cloud's thick darkness, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee also for ever. And Moses told the words of the people to Jehovah. -Darby
Was this even God Himself? Notice the Third Person wording:
Ex 19:24- And Jehovah said unto him, "Go, get thee down; and thou shalt come up, thou, and Aaron with thee: but let not the priests and the people break through to come up unto Jehovah, lest He break forth upon them." - ASV
This indicates it was someone acting as the Word (Spokesman) of God...
Ex 23:20-"See, I am sending an >>> ANGEL <<< ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21- Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him.
22- If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say,
I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you."
1 Cor 10:1- I want you to know, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea,
2- and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3- and all ate the same supernatural food
4- and all drank the same supernatural drink. For they drank from the supernatural Rock which followed them, and the Rock was Christ.
Christ was the Word OF God- from the very beginning!
Trinity, Triune Godhead, God-the-Father, God-the-Son, God-the- Holy Ghost, the Holy Spirit, the Word, I AM, Nicene Creed, Church Fathers, Arian, etc!
For TWO THOUSAND YEARS the controversy over who Christ is or was has raged among thousands of groups all claiming their differing views to be based on the Bible! The fact is that most is based on CHURCH DOGMA, which distorts their view of the Bible.
The matter really CAN be easily cleared up WITH NO DOUBT by simply taking a closer look at the Bible, while setting Church Dogma aside!
This List will do this from the very START of the Bible (Genesis)- in ORDER- to the very END of it (Revelation).
We first start with the very first reference to the holy spirit:
Gen 1:2- And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit (or breath) of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Nothing here indicates a 'Ghost-God', much less two Other 'God-Persons/Natures/ Essences'... but there is MUCH more to come!'
Gen 1:26- And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness...
CHURCHianity has God talking to Himself/Themselves, but His son was there. Also, so too, were the rest of the angels-
Job 38:4-Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
5-Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6- On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone?
7- while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?
We don't know if the angels assisted God and Christ (they likely DID),
however, it doesn't matter; God was speaking to his family. He Himself later tells us that it was His SON
who "made" all things, and also that GOD created all things "THROUGH" him!
AND, being the Leader (Archangel) of the Messengers (Angels), the rest of the angels likely HELPED!
And, don't forget that WE - who are lower than angels- were made in His image, so the angels were, too!
Genesis 14:18-Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. He was priest of God Most High,
19- and he blessed Abram, saying, "Blessed be Abram by God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth.
20- And praise be to God Most High, who delivered your enemies into your hand."
Mysterious Melchizedek- a King of Salem (later known as JERUsalem), and a Priest of Jehovah! Nothing else is said
about him or his connection to God!
Now Gen 18 and 19, where three men (angels) appeared to Abraham and Lot. Clergy say it was the Trinity (Father, Son and Ghost] ... Let's see what the ACCOUNT says-
Gen 18:1-And Jehovah appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre. And he sat at the
tent-door in the heat of the day.
2-And he lifted up his eyes and saw, and behold, three men standing near
him. And when he saw [them], he ran to meet them from the tent-door, and bowed himself to the earth,
3-and said, Lord, if now I have found favor in thine eyes, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant.
4-Let now a little water be fetched, that ye may wash your feet, and restyourselves under the tree.
8-And he took thick and sweet milk, and the calf that he had dressed, and set
[it] before them; and he stood before them under the tree, and they ate.
9-And they said to him, Where is Sarah thy wife? And he said, Behold, in the tent.
10-And he said, I will certainly return to thee at [this] time of the year, and behold, Sarah thy wife shall have a son. And Sarah was listening at the tent-door, which was behind him.
11-Now Abraham and Sarah were old [and] advanced in age: it had ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women.
12-And Sarah laughed within herself, saying, After I am become old, shall I have pleasure, and my lord old?
13-And Jehovah said to Abraham, Why is this, that Sarah laughs, saying, "Shall I indeed bear, when I am become old?"
14-Is [any] matter too wonderful for Jehovah? At the time appointed I will
return to thee, at [this] time of the year, and Sarah shall have a son.
20-And Jehovah said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrahis great and their sin is very grievous,
21-I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come to me; and if not, I will know [it].
[No "Omnipresence"]
22-And the men turned thence, and went towards Sodom; and Abraham remained yet standing before Jehovah.
23-And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also cause the righteous to perish with the wicked?
33-And Jehovah went away when he had ended speaking to Abraham; and Abraham returned to his place.
Genesis 19
1-And the two angels came to Sodom at even. And Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. And Lot saw them, and rose up to meet them; and he bowed down, the face toward the ground.
15-And as the dawn arose, the angels urged Lot, saying,Up, take thy wife and thy two daughters who are present, lest thou perish in the iniquity of the city.
16-And as he lingered, the men laid hold on his hand, and on the hand of his wife, and on the hand of his two daughters, Jehovah being merciful to him; and they led him out, and set him without the city.
17-And it came to pass when they had brought them outside, that he said, "Escape for thy life: look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain: escape to the mountain, lest thou perish."
23-The sun rose upon the earth when Lot came to Zoar. 24-And Jehovah rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Jehovah out of heaven.
Now, what does the account show us?
Did Three Gods, or 'God-Persons/Natures/Essences' become "men" to visit Abraham and Sodom?
God-the-Father, God-the-Son, and God-the-Ghost doing all this...or Jehovah speaking and working thru these angels?
Notice that they are called "men", "angels" ,and "Jehovah" interchangably.
As we continue thru the Bible, you will see OTHER ac counts where an Angel is spoken of as "Jehovah"
( or "LORD" in most translations removing it) for the sole reason God is SPEAKING directly THRU them.
Moses later writes that no man can see God and live, as Jesus later did.
The Apostle John, too, later writes that no man HAS seen God, which indicates that He has used different angels and IMAGES to appear and represent Himself to man.
John, and MANY others DID see Jesus! (NOT God), and Abraham, too, sees ANGELS, not God- and certainly not THREE Almighty Gods!
The next biblical reference that gives insight as to who God is, is an account so strange that nearly EVERY PERSON ON EARTH TODAY has HEARD of it!
The account (Gen 18 and 19 above) shows Abraham and Sarah were VERY old- and that they were childless.
The angels TOLD him that God was going to enable them to have a son, which they did- Abraham being 100 years old!
( The son he had thru a concubine due to his wife's lack of faith, years earlier, - and by her INSISTANCE, was viewed by them AND GOD, as Illegitimate, and God made it clear that the blessings He had spoken about wouldn't be thru him,
but thru his ONLY son, he had with his WIFE WOULD be,)
Then, years later -
Gen 22 : 2 - Then God said, " Take your son, your only son, whom you love , Isaac , and go to the region of Moriah.
Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you."
(For very interesting reading look up info like: https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/mount-ebal-0012793 )
There are no details telling us the anguish Abraham must have felt - only that he didn't hesitate, getting up early in the morning , traveling to Moriah , and was about to slaughter his ONLY - BEGOTTEN SON as a sacrifice to his God, when an angel stops him!
Later, the apostle Paul said THIS about the event-
Heb 11:17- By faith Abraham offered Isaac, when he was tempted ; and he offered the one begotten [son],
which had taken the promises ; 18 - to whom it was said, For in Isaac the seed shall be called to thee. 19 - For he deemed, that God is mighty to raise him , yea , from death ; wherefore he took him also into a parable. - Wycliffe
Parable, Figurative Way, Illustrative Way, as different translations put it.
Illustrative of WHAT?
The Trinity of Father, a Ghost...and a Son?
It is not a co-incidence that Jehovah chose to refer to Jesus as His "Only-Begotten son"!
The pattern was foreshadowed by that event, and EVERYONE knew what an only-begotten son WAS, until the clergy got a hold of it, convincing all it just meant the Second God of the Trinity.
NOTHING in scripture even HINTS at that.
With Clever Spin they changed it from "son of God" to "God-the-Son"- the EXACT OPPOSITE!
The next account that gives us insight into the Identity of God is Exodus.
Ex 3:13 - And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, "What is his name?" What shall I say unto them?
14- And God said unto Moses, "I Shall Be As I Shall Be." [ https://exodus-314.com/part-i/exodus-314-in-judaism/exodus-314-in-jewish-bible-translations/] And He said, "So you shall say to the Children of Israel, "I Shall Be has sent me to you". [No "I am]
15- And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,
>>>> Jehovah, <<<< the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my NAME FOREVER, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
No mention of 'God-the-Son', nor 'God-the-Ghost'.
A Personal Name that would be FOREVER! Not "Jesus"!
Also notice that God NEVER says "If you listen to US, WE will bless you". etc. when speaking to man; He ALWAYS speaks in the first person!
This does not show 3 God-Beings, but ONE Personage.
For FOUR HUNDRED YEARS, the Jews who worshiped him were in bondage to Egypt, and, understandably, were starting to doubt he existed or cared. Thus he told Moses, whom He would use as a Word and a Spokesman, and arranged for his brother to speak FOR them, since Moses was poor at speaking -
Ex 4:15- You will speak with him and tell him what to say. I will help both you and him [to speak], and will teach you both what to do. 16- He will speak to the people for you. He will be your spokesman, and you will serve as God to him.
17- And take this staff in your hand that you will perform the signs with.
Note that being Spokesman for God is what THIS ALSO means~
Exodus 7:1 -And Jehovah said to Moses, " See, I have made thee God to Pharaoh;
and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. - Darby
So Moses "Was God" to Aaron and to Pharaoh... Just as Jesus "Was God" to the world.
Trying to cover this over, most translations add "like" (and similar) and a small "g"- even tho the biblical languages had no upper case-lower case distinctions...Even tho "like" IS what it means (as with John 1:1), that is not how it literally reads...
Heb 3:1- Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts
on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as our apostle ["sent-forth One"] and high priest.
2- He was faithful to the One who appointed him, >> just as <<< Moses was faithful in all God's house.
God is NOT an Apostle, is NOT a High Priest. JESUS is!
No 'Co-Equal' Fellow-Gods.
No Nameless Ghost-God .
The Only-Begotten son OF God, always faithful and loyal to the ONLY true God, Jehovah.
The next account giving us insight as to the nature & identity of God is found at Exodus 19.
The Israelites had just been delivered from Egypt, and God says He is going to appear before them all.
How will He do it? In a physical form, as the angels did with Abraham?
Does God HIMSELF become "a little lower than ANGELS", as Christ later did?
Ex 19: 9-And Jehovah said to Moses, Lo, I will come to thee in the cloud's thick darkness, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee also for ever. And Moses told the words of the people to Jehovah. -Darby
Was this even God Himself? Notice the Third Person wording:
Ex 19:24- And Jehovah said unto him, "Go, get thee down; and thou shalt come up, thou, and Aaron with thee: but let not the priests and the people break through to come up unto Jehovah, lest He break forth upon them." - ASV
This indicates it was someone acting as the Word (Spokesman) of God...
Ex 23:20-"See, I am sending an >>> ANGEL <<< ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21- Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him.
22- If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say,
I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you."
1 Cor 10:1- I want you to know, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea,
2- and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3- and all ate the same supernatural food
4- and all drank the same supernatural drink. For they drank from the supernatural Rock which followed them, and the Rock was Christ.
Christ was the Word OF God- from the very beginning!
By this time, all of you have seen how the Trinitarians try to put a spin to John's words that were INSPIRED BY GOD HIMSELF, when he wrote "No man has seen God at ANY time!"
A curious account verifying this is found at -
Ex 33:20- And He said, Thou canst not see my face; for Man shall not see me, and live.
21-And Jehovah said, Behold, [there is] a place by me: there shalt thou stand on the rock.
22-And it shall come to pass, when my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand, until I have passed by.
23-And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see me from behind; but my face shall not be seen.
My guess is that 'behind' was the only term Moses could understand; a way of saying
a very small PART of Him. Maybe it was blinding light....for~
Ex 34:35- the people of Israel saw the face of Moses, that the skin of Mose's face shone!
Deut 6:4- Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.-ASV
Self explanatory! (Neither THREE, nor Three-in-One)
One particular account gives a clear picture of God's Spirit! See if it is 1/3 God- a 'Holy Ghost', or...
Num 11:16- And Jehovah said to Moses, “Gather for me seventy men of the elders of Israel, whom you know to be the elders of the people and officers over them; and bring them to the tent of meeting, and let them take their stand there with you. 17- And I will come down and talk with you there; and I will take >>> some <<< of the spirit which is upon you and put >>> IT <<< upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with you, that you may not bear it yourself alone.
(Repeated several times in the account)
God HIMSELF calls the holy spirit "IT"- SEVERAL times, and says He will take SOME of IT from Moses.
Was the Ghost-God of Churchianity chopped up & passed around?
Did Almighty God #1 call God #3 "IT"????
Of COURSE not!
From Exodus thru to Isaiah, the endless dealings of Jehovah with Israel and the nations show Him to be ONE PERSON.
Never does He speak of Himself to the people as "We" or "Ourselves". Always as "I".
And never is a Ghost-God seen, or referred to.
Josh 5:13- And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand:
and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?
14- And he said, Nay; but as prince of the host of Jehovah am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? 15- And the prince of Jehovah’s host said unto Joshua, Put off thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.
Another example where an angel represented God!
AND, this angel is WORSHIPPED, as JESUS was!
WHY? "Worship" simply means to show the highets honor or respect to someone.
It's not til we get to Isaiah, that He foretells the coming of His son- giving us insight into his many roles~
Isa 9: 6- For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7- Of the increase of his government and of peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to establish it, and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of Jehovah of hosts will perform this. -ASV
The clergy have long used this to prop up
their Trinity Dogma, saying see there:
"MIGHTY GOD! ETERNAL FATHER! Jesus is God Almighty- there is the PROOF!"
It IS proof...of their ignorance and deception.
NO translation reads "Almighty".
Angels, and Moses "were" God. (Ex 7:1)
Many are...FATHERS, both literally, and figuratively.
JESUS has a Father, and has become one to US!
'Mighty God', in the Hebrew term "el gbur" literally means "Mighty Godlike Warrior",
and is applied to mighty rulers, gods of ancient people- and also the True God,
as well as it was to be applied to His Son.
Isa 9 does NOT say God HIMSELF is to come- as WOULD be the case if the 'Trinity' was real- buuuuut says He will GIVE this individual to mankind.
Since Christ (as he is called later) has always been the Word (Spokesman) of God- even to ancient Israel,
he, as with Moses, REPRESENTS God, as shown by this and many other references. He is not his own Father,
but has become the eternal father of mankind. He created the human race thru his Father's Holy Spirit- and he later DIED
for us, and their 'immortal soul' dogma even belies THAT!
The shell game the clergy have played for CENTURIES~
They quote Isa 42: 8, where it says
"I am the Lord, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another" (most translations), saying that this proves Jesus was always God, that He would not GIVE glory to Christ, nor any other. They not only spurn the Name (replacing it with "LORD"), but also don't quote the whole verse when abusing it:
Isa 42:8- I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise unto graven images.
SELF EXPLANATORY!
We all know He later DID share His Glory with His son, giving him all Power & Authority, as pictured in Daniel 7!
Israel was starting to worship the imaginary Gods of the nations....
Isa 46:5- Who will you compare me to? Who is equal to me? What am I like? Who can you compare me to?
6- Some people pour gold out of their bags. They weigh out silver on the scales. They hire someone who works
with gold to make it into a God. They bow down to it and worship it.
7- They lift it up on their shoulders and carry it. They set it up in its place. And there it stands.
It can't move from that spot. Someone might cry out to it. But it does not answer him.
It can't save him from his troubles.
8- So remember that, you who refuse to obey me. Keep it in your minds and hearts.
9- Remember what happened in the past. Think about what took place long ago.
I am God. There is no other God. I am God. There is no one like me.
10- Before something even happens, I announce how it will end.
In fact, from times long ago I announced what was still to come.
I say, " My plan will succeed. I will do anything I want to do. "
Again, the True God stresses that He ( not ' We ' ) is the ONLY True God-
the rest being no more than figments of mans Imagination.
No 'Triune' ANYTHING is EVER referred to or mentioned!
Isaiah 53: 11- After he has suffered, he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities.
My Servant, will justify the many, As He will bear their iniquities.
(Read 1-60.)
God Almighty never has, nor ever WILL be anyone's servant: JESUS was!
Jeremiah was inspired by God�s Breath (the Holy Spirit) to give another prophecy of the coming of
Christ, while the Jews were captives in Babylon:
Jer 30:8- And it shall come to pass in that day, saith Jehovah of hosts, that I will break his
yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds; and strangers shall no more make
him their bondman;
9- but they shall serve Jehovah their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
Notice that God was NOT talking about Himself- but someone in ADDITION to Himself!!
Any pretence at being a Christian is quickly proven false when denying the One who
SENT him, the One Jesus Served. (Not TWO)
Next comes the ancient Hebrew prophet, Ezekiel, who has a VISION of God! Did he see three beings, or.....
Ez 1: 1- Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth [month], on the fifth of the month, as I was among the captives by
the river Chebar, the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God.
3 -the word of Jehovah came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river
Chebar; and the hand of Jehovah was there upon him.
4-And I looked, and behold, a stormy wind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness
was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the look of glowing brass, out of the midst of the fire.
5- Also out of the midst thereof, the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: they had the likeness of a man.
24- And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, a tumultuous
noise, as the noise of a host: when they stood, they let down their wings;
25- and there was a voice from above the expanse that was over their heads. When they stood, they let down their wings.
26- And above the expanse that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone; and
upon the likeness of the throne was a likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.
27- And I saw as the look of glowing brass, as the appearance of fire, within it round about; from the appearance of his loins and
upward, and from the appearance of his loins and downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness
round about.
28- As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about.
This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of Jehovah. And when I saw, I fell on my face, and I heard a voice of one that spoke.
2:1- And he said unto me, "son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak with thee."
2-And the Spirit entered into me when he spoke unto me, and set me upon my feet; and I heard him that spoke unto me.
No 'God-the-Son', nor a 'God-the-Ghost'. Just ONE Grand Personage we know as Jehovah!
NOWHERE in ANY of the many visions of God is there seen ANYTHING like the Trinity!
Just Jehovah, then later, after his appointment His son.
"The Spirit"- does that appear to be a God Ghost- or the power of God?
Keep in mind , as you read it, that the Hebrew (and the Greek) word used literally means "wind/and "breath":
Ez 11:22 - Then did the cherubim lift up their wings, and the wheels were beside them; and the glory of the God of Israel was over them above.
23- And the glory of Jehovah went up from the midst of the city, and stood upon the mountain which is on the east side of the city.
24- And the Spirit lifted me up, and brought me in the vision by the Spirit of God into Chaldea, to them of the captivity. So the vision that I
had seen went up from me.
25- Then I spake unto them of the captivity all the things that Jehovah had showed me. -ASV
One's belief of what the holy spirit is can easily flavor our understanding of this verse; was it the POWER of God that enabled Ezekiel to see
and experience this vision- or a 'God-the-Ghost'?
Daniel, the ancient Hebrew prophet, was the next to 'see' God - and also the one we know as Christ, in a vision long before Jesus was given the name "Jesus"-
Daniel 7: 9 - As I looked, thrones were set in place, and the Ancient of Days took his seat. His clothing was as white as snow;
the hair of his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze.
10 - A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand
times ten thousand stood before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened.
13- In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He
approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence.
14-And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him:
his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
Note how the "son of man" is "coming with the clouds"- and prophesied of the Last Days.
This takes place in HEAVEN.
There is no 3-Person Godhead, with one God giving another God this kingship.
The simple- yet dynamic- picture reveals the One TRUE God choosing someone to be the King of Kings. (See Dan 2:44)
We KNOW who that one is!
Malachi 3:1- “Behold, I send my messenger [literally "ANGEL"] to prepare the way before me,
and the Lord [Jesus] whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple;
the messenger [literally "ANGEL"] of the covenant in whom you delight, behold, he is coming, says Jehovah of hosts.
2- But who can endure the day of his coming, and who can stand when he appears?
John was the first messenger, who prepared the way of the second- Lord Jesus.
The Hebrew word "malaki", translated here as "messenger" is often translated as "angel".
"Angel" MEANS "Messenger" in Hebrew and Greek!
John and Jesus were angels!
Well, continuing to scan the many references to God we come to the Book of Matthew, in the 'New Testament'-
Matt 1:19- And Joseph her husband, being a righteous man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privately. 20- But when he thought on these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, " Joseph,
thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the holy spirit.
21- And she shall bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name JESUS; for it is he that shall save his people from
their sins. "
Was this a Ghost-God that impregnated Mary- or "the Power of the Most High", as Gabriel soon describes it to Mary?
"Jesus" literally means "Salvation of
Jehovah" / "Jehovah is Salvation" (in Hebrew).
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Matt 1:22- Now all this is come to pass, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying,
23- Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Immanuel; which is, being
interpreted, God with us. - ASV
Now we all know Trinitarians try to use this to 'prove' Jesus was God (that's the only reason its here); fact
is MANY Hebrew names had this, or similar meaning. The Names were usually to cement faith in God.
They are so DESPERATE to prop up their fantasy that they imagine it in every word!
God is ALWAYS with those who sincerely try to do His Will, and those with 'good' hearts!
Jesus was not called "Immanuel"; the name was symbolic.
Next comes the scripture long contorted & twisted to justify the X-Mas celebration.
Jesus was NOT a newborn- but had ALREADY been born when astrologers ("magi" /"wise men"- in weak translations) noticed
a bright light they called "his star".
Note that Herod has boys up to TWO YEARS OLD killed. Also, keep in mind that traveling in those days took a LOT
of time; no cars, planes, or buses!
(Luke 2:4-21 tells how he WAS born, earlier, in Bethlehem (no astrologers/magi/ "wise men"), and was taken to the temple
in Jerusalem eight days later. That happened BEFORE this account in Matthew- thus, Herod killing the
infant boys TWO YEARS OLD and younger!)
Matt 2:1- Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men [Astrologers/Magicians]
from the east came to Jerusalem, asking, 2-Where is he Who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen his star
in the east at its rising and have come to worship him.
Keep in mind that "worship" in the KJV is a word used to show the highest honor- and was always
applied to those showing honor to Kings. Today, it is a word used only of God- in the U.S.; but, in England
it is STILL commonly used with government officials!
God passionately CONDEMNS astrology, stating how much He detests it.
So he would NEVER lead Astologers with a Star to the one with the power and desire to KILL His son!
Do the details indicate to YOU that GOD's the one sending the star?
Matt 2:7- Then Herod privily called the Wise-men (Magi/Astrologers), and learned of them exactly what time the
star appeared. 8- And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search out exactly concerning the young child; and when
ye have found him, bring me word, that I also may come and worship him.
9- And they, having heard the king, went their way; and lo, he star, which they saw in the east,
went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.
This 'star' doesn't lead them to the young boy Christ... until they meet with Herod, who sends the army behind them! This account however, doesn't give us any special insight into God's identity- except by reflective contrast: it was He who GAVE us the Savior, and who is now protecting him.
Is this a 'God -Person #2', born as a child? Is The 'Father God #1 and the Ghost God #3' in Heaven?
Or is it (gasp!) the only BEGOTTEN son of God (not to be confused with 'God-the-Son' - the exact OPPOSITE- of Catholic origin)?
Matt 3:16- As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened,
and he saw the spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him.
17- And a voice from heaven said,' This is my son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. '
To really learn, we must first pray, and ask our Maker to give us insight as we read. AND, set aside preconceptions- to see
what the scriptures say- not man.
Again, the Holy Spirit- which is referred to as 'Power' by the angel Gabriel, is seen as a glowing shape,
'LIKE' a dove; doves almost glow in sunlight.
No human-like form as with God, Christ and angels appear in vision, as angels used to appear when on earth. ALWAYS
some form of light. At Pentecost- ( Acts2 ) the sound of a rushing
breeze is heard ('Spirit'/ Ruach, Pnema/Wind), and it appears 'Like' flame- but that's getting ahead of this point.
Then the Voice.
Was God #1 ('God-the-Father') sending God #3 ('God-the-Ghost') upon God #2, who was now a man to possess 'Him'?
Many claim Jesus IS the Father.
( " I and the Father are One " )
Most view them as somehow seperate
Persons that are ONE Person! Heh!
Simple fact: God speaks to His Son
from Heaven.
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Trinitarians, say Satan was
tempting God Almighty!
Read this carefully- and see if that
makes ANY kind of sense!
Matt 4:1- Then Jesus was led by the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
[Did a Ghost-God lead the Son God?]
2- After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry.
3- The tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread."
4- Jesus answered, " It is written: People do not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from
the mouth of God. "
5- Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple.
6- "If you are the son of God,' he said, ' throw yourself down. For it is written: ' He will
command His angels concerning you,
[ If Jesus is the Almighty- aren't they HIS angels? ]
and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone."
7- Jesus answered him, " It is also written: ' Do not put Jehovah your God to the test.'
[ God's Name Jehovah/Yahweh was removed, and replaced with ' LORD ' ]
8- Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their
splendor. 9- " All this I will give you," he said, " if you will bow down and worship me."
[They ALREADY belonged to the Almighty- not to Satan OR Jesus, yet.]
10- Jesus said to him, 'Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship Jehovah [ "Jehovah" was removed again ] and serve him only.' 11- Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.
Would Satan be Stupid enough to try and tempt God Almighty????
Did Jesus say ANYTHING that implied, hinted, or showed HIM to be the Almighty?
Only the title 'LORD' that translators substituted might give someone that impression.
Here, where Jesus quoted from the Hebrew scriptures (OT) he would NOT have substituted "Lord" for the Name
of his God & Father!
Finally, Christ referred to the authority of the Scriptures as the basis for his stand, NEVER saying
' I don't live on Bread- I'm God, as you know!', or 'It is ME ALONE you should worship!'
No- he refers to the Law of his God- the Only TRUE God, Jehovah.
To understand what the Bible REALLY says, one must set aside pre-conceived concepts
taught by Religion, and FOCUS on what the BIBLE itself says!
Here are classic examples:
(1) If you read the word 'Soul' and
think of religious dogma, you will be
misled- for a 'soul' is NEVER referred
to as immortal, nor taught as such in
the Bible- unless it is referring to God,
Christ, or those GIVEN immortality.
"Souls" die, and are destroyed.
(2) If you read of Jesus' Father, and think
it 'God-the-Father' of Trinity
deception, you will AGAIN be misled-
and miss the things Christ reveals
about his GOD and Father.
Try looking closer, now!
Matt 10:18 - On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the
Gentiles. 19- But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, 20- for it will not be you speaking, but the spirit of your Father speaking through you.
The breath (spirit) of the Father (Jehovah). The "POWER" of God directed them what to say. No Nameless Ghost God possessed them.
Does this sound like we will be possessed by a Ghost God that will speak thru us?
Or the POWER Gabriel spoke of to Mary, the POWER Christ spoke of at his ascension-
"the Power of the Most High"?
Matt 9:8- When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to man.
These Jews knew Jesus wasn't God- but given authority by him...
Matt 10: 29- Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? But not one of them will fall to the ground without your Father knowing about it already. 30- but the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31- Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows. 32- Every one therefore who shall confess me before men, him will I also confess before my Father who is in heaven. 33- But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father who is in heaven. 40- He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth Him that sent me.
'My Father' is a separate One he referred to a God. Jesus later tells Mary He is his GOD.
The opening of most 'New Testament' books open with something like 'Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord, Jesus Christ'.
So Jesus is NOT God- as seen in his every reference; here he says he will represent mankind to his Father (God).
If he WAS God, this would be a MEANINGLESS statement. (Altho Trinitarians can conjure up excuses for ANYTHING!)
Matt 11: 25- At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have
hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26- Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27- All things have been delivered to me by my Father, and no one knows the son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the son, and the one to whom the son wills to reveal Him.
Who is this 'Father' Christ speaks of?
Some Trinitarians have told me Jesus is ALSO the Father!
And yet the common Version of the Trinity holds they are Three Separate Beings (i.e. Gods) sharing the same
office, claiming they have equal authority, yet Christ NEVER said he was equal with God- even tho some of the scriptures seem to say it in THEIR minds.
Philippians 2 even tells us Jesus never even CONSIDERED trying to be equal with God! Thus it is important to pay close attention to Christ's word FIRST- for HE should KNOW!
Matt 12:15- Jesus, aware of this, withdrew from there. And many followed him, and he healed them all, 16- and ordered them not to make him known. 17- This was to fulfil what was spoken by the prophet Isaiah:
18- Behold, my servant whom I have chosen, my beloved with whom my soul is well pleased. I will put my spirit [breath] upon him, and he shall proclaim justice to the Gentiles. 19- He will not wrangle or cry aloud, nor will any one hear his voice in the streets.
God is NO ONE'S servant. Jesus is GOD'S servant.
And One God wasn't put into ANOTHER God by God!!!
Churches say the Spirit of God is a Ghost-God; nameless, never seen, a Co-Equal God with, the Jesus-God, and the God-God (the Father).
Does that fit in with what Christ says NEXT? :
Matt 12: 31- Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven men. 32- Anyone who speaks a word against the son of man [Jesus], it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Jesus HIMSELF shows the spirit to be superior to himself; no Co-Equal Godhead here!
Why people can be forgiven if they blaspheme JESUS!
But NOT his God and Father, whom they speak against when speaking against what He says- who SENDS His Holy Breath ("Spirit") ...
Matt 13:15- He said to them, 'But who do you say that I am?' 16- Simon Peter replied, 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' 17- And Jesus answered him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven."
Notice Peter didn't say "God" or "Part of the Holt Trinity" or "Godman"?
The 'Trinity' is NOWHERE in the Bible, being a fabricated word for a fabricated dogma!
Matt 14:28- And Peter answered him, "Lord, if it is you, bid me come to you on the water."
29- He said, "Come." So Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water and came to Jesus;
30- but when he saw the wind, he was afraid, and beginning to sink he cried out, "Lord, save me."
31- Jesus immediately reached out his hand and caught him, saying to him, "O man of little faith, why did you doubt?" 32- And when they got into the boat, the wind ceased.
33- And those in the boat worshiped [ Grk "proskunio" meaning to kiss, like a dog licking his master's hand,
to fawn or crouch to literally or figuratively prostrate oneself in homage/do reverence to, adore] him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God."
Notice they didn't say anything like "Truly you are God!"
Fascinating account! It makes one think of just what we COULD be capable of IF not hampered by fear and some lack in our faith
Matt 14:35- And when the men of that place recognized him, they sent round to all that region and brought to him all that were sick, 36- and besought him that they might only touch the fringe of his garment; and as many as touched it were made well.
There never was any ridiculous 'Holy Ghost'; the Power/ holy spirit of God that radiated from Jesus!
It was the Power ('spirit') of his God and Father.
Matt 15:29- And Jesus went on from there and passed along the Sea of Galilee. And he went up on the mountain, and sat down there. 30- And great crowds came to him, bringing with them the lame, the maimed, the blind, the dumb, and many others, and they put them at his feet, and he healed them, 31- so that the throng wondered, when they saw the dumb speaking, the maimed whole, the lame walking, and the blind seeing; and they glorified the God of Israel.
Notice they didn't glorify Jesus- but 'The God of Israel"?
They knew who gave Jesus that power & authority!
Even churchoids know that was Jehovah- so they attempt to merge the two!
Matt 16:26- What good will it be for you to gain the whole world, yet forfeit your soul?
Or what can you give in exchange for your soul? 27- For the son of man is going to come in his Father's glory with his angels, and then he will reward everyone according to what they have done."
Notice Jesus says he will come with his FATHER'S Glory & Angels?
The Glory & the Angels would have ALWAYS been HIS...if he were literally God... But, he never has been-
EXCEPT as His Spokesman, His... WORD!
Matt 18:19- Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20-For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Not "in OUR Names" (God said His Name, Jehovah, would be so- FOREVER!)
Matt 20: 23- Jesus said to them, "You will indeed drink from my cup, but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared by my Father."
No "Co-Equality" seen here. EITHER! His Father- his GOD- has superior authority.
No Ghost is mentioned. WHERE is the 'Trinity'???
EVERYTHING Christ said and taught about himself and his Father made it EASY to discern he was not God- but one close & dear to Him~
Matt 22:1- Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying: 2- "The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son..."
Here he used an Illustration EVERY SINGLE JEW could easily understand: Father & Son.
Many Trinitarians have told me Jesus IS the Father. They ALL believe they (and a Nameless Ghost) are co-equal,
as taught by the Clergy, instead of believing Jesus.
Matthew 21:33- Hear another parable. A man who owned some land planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it. He dug a pit for a winepress in it. He also built a lookout tower. He rented the vineyard out to some farmers. Then he went away on a journey.... 34- When harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the renters. He told the servants to collect his share of the fruit. 35- But the renters grabbed his servants.They beat one of them. They killed another. They threw stones at the third to kill him. 36- Then the man sent other servants to the renters. He sent more than he did the first time. The renters treated them the same way. 37- Last of all, he sent his son to them. 'They will respect my son,' he said. 38- But the renters saw the son coming. They said to each other, 'This is the one who will receive all the owner's property someday. Come, let's kill him. Then everything will be ours.' 39- So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard. Then they killed him. 40- When the owner of the vineyard comes back, what will he do to those renters?
The "Man who owned some Land" didn't come; he sent his son!
When He does return- He will do so in Fury- thus "the Day of Fury" referred to in the Bible!
Back to the subject: NOTHING in the Bible says God came in the flesh (altho He became "manifest" or KNOWN in the flesh, thru Jesus)- everywhere it tells us He sent His Only-Begotten Son! Churchianity rejects that with passion!
Matt 22:29- Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.
30- At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.
31- But about the resurrection of the dead have you not read what God said to you,
32- 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob' ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living." 33- When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at his teaching.
Now people will read MANY things into THESE words- but one thing is DEAD CERTAIN: Jesus was, AGAIN, referring to God as someone OTHER than himself!
(He didn't say "Didn't you read what I or We said to you?")
Matt 22:42 - saying, What think ye of the Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David.
43- He saith unto them, How then doth David in the spirit call him Lord, saying,
44- Jehovah said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Till I put thine enemies underneath thy feet?
45- If David then calleth him Lord, how is he his son? 46- And no one was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.
You Trinitarians say WHAT?
One 'Almighty God' says to ANOTHER 'Almighty God' to sit at His right hand until He subdues his enemies????
There is no 'Trinity' here!
Here Jesus quotes the Psalms where it says "Jehovah said to my Lord". (No form of God's name existed in the Kione Greek)
An early prophecy about His Son's coming role.
After foretelling the things that would happen in the Last Days, he said-
Matt 24:36- But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the son, but the Father only.
No Co-equal 'Trinity'...
The Father is the One True God- Jehovah, the God of Jesus Christ!
Matt 26:63- But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou art the Christ, the Son of God. 64- Jesus said unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, henceforth ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven. 65- Then the high priest rent his garments, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy: what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard the blasphemy: 66- what think ye? They answered and said, He is worthy of death.
The Jews knew he wasn't Go, nor that he claimed to be- as shown here.
A meaningless statement if he was one of the Almighty Gods of Churchianity's Trinity Dogma...
(By the way, for those of you expecting Christ to be circling the Earth thousands of times on a
cloud- or maybe as a Giant for only hundreds, note that he said they would "see" him coming on
the clouds, from that moment ON (henceforth)!
Matt 28: [ Jesus, after being resurrected said: ] 18-And Jesus coming up spoke to them, saying, "All power has been given me in heaven and upon earth.
19-Go [therefore] and make disciples of all the nations, baptising them in the name of the Father, and of the son, and of the holy spirit; 20- teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have enjoined you. And behold, I am with you all the days, until the completion of the age. "
All Power wasn't RETURNED to Jesus, as Trinitarian dogma conjures up.
He wasn't God when in the flesh... all Power was GIVEN him!
There is that reference to the "name of" the Holy Spirit...but...
IT doesn't HAVE a "name" for us to use!
The meaning is EASILY apparent; carry out your ministry under the guidance and of God, Christ, and the Power they send us- the Holy Spirit!
Mark 1:8- I baptize you with water, but he will baptize you with the holy spirit.
9- At that time Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan.
10- Just as Jesus was coming up out of the water, he saw heaven being torn open and the spirit descending on him like a dove.
11- And a voice came from heaven: "You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased."
Now for those of us that have actually read the Bible thru many times, and have relied on this spirit to guide us-
we KNOW it to simply be, as Gabriel told Mary- "the POWER of the Most High God".
But not when we blindly believed what the Clergy taught us; that the Holy Spirit was a ...GHOST
(altho they avoid that term now- but teach the SAME THING!), a third God of the Triune Godhead...
Think on what happened. Jesus KNEW his Father- God- approved. So God both spoke, and had the
spirit SEEN for a witness to all that Jesus was the REAL Messiah- for many False ones had appeared, making that claim. Now- if God wanted all to know He and 'Them' as the Trinity- why did He have the holy spirit take the form of a DOVE, and not a person?
First- it DIDN'T; John describes it as being LIKE a dove.
That's the shape he compared this Glowing Light to; doves shimmer white in the sunlight.
Second- it WASN'T the Third God sent by the First God to the Second God! Otherwise, like angels
(and Christ after his resurrection) it WOULD have appeared in the form of a person! So,
Third- God had it manifest in this way so all could know IT WAS an IT; His Power. At pentecost it
appears "like" tongues of flame- not as little faces!
The Holy Spirit ALWAYS is manifest as POWER!
If God is/are the Supreme beings, all "Co-Equal", how do the trinnies see THIS?-
Mark 3:28 -Truly I tell you, people will be forgiven all their sins and all the blasphemies they utter.
29- But whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will never be forgiven, but is guilty of an
eternal sin."
Was Jesus saying it's less of a sin to Blaspheme him, or 'God-the -Father'?
If the Trtinity was real, and they were "co-equal", it would be the same for all 3!
In Matthew he added that their lies about himself would be forgiven too- but NOT the spirit!
Was the "Holy Ghost" the most powerful of the 3 'Gods/Beings/Persons/Natures'?
Of course not; blaspheming against the Holy Spirit was doing so against the One acting thru it:
Jehovah, the God of Jesus Christ!
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The Holy Spirit is AGAIN shown to be the POWER of God, rather than a Namelkess, Faceless 'Ghost-God':
Mark 5: 25- And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years.
26- She had suffered a great deal under the care of many doctors and had spent all she had, yet
instead of getting better she grew worse.
27- When she heard about Jesus, she came up behind him in the crowd and touched his cloak,
28- because she thought, "If I just touch his clothes, I will be healed."
29- Immediately her bleeding stopped and she felt in her body that she was freed from her suffering.
30- At once Jesus realized that >>> power <<<< had gone out from him.
He turned around in the crowd and asked, "Who touched my clothes?"
31- "You see the people crowding against you," his disciples answered, "and yet you can ask, 'Who touched me?' "
32- But Jesus kept looking around to see who had done it.
Mark 6:55- They ran throughout that whole region and carried the sick on mats to wherever they heard he was.
56- And wherever he went into villages, towns or countryside they placed the sick in the marketplaces. They begged him to let them touch even the edge of his cloak, and all who touched him were healed.
That Power was the Holy Spirit. He didn't have a fellow God do the healing. It was the POWER from God, the holy spirit that enabled him to!
Mark 8:38- If any of you are ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the son of man will be ashamed of you when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels."
In his FATHER'S glory.
The glory GIVEN him BY his Father- not in his own, as the mythical 'God-the-son'.
Jesus ALWAYS referred to his God & Father as SOMEONE ELSE!
Mark 10: 17- As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him.
"Good teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
18- "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good" except God alone."
Which ONE? A Nameless Father, or a Nameless Ghost God of CHURCHianity? And why not the 'Godman'?
Jesus was referring to the One (not THREE) that he called the "Only True God".
But that is just TOO MUCH for Trinitarians who worship their church to accept!
Mark 10:40 - but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared."
(In Matthew, he says it's God- who decides. No Trinity.)
Mark 11:7- And they brought the colt to Jesus, and cast their garments on him; and he sat upon him.
8-And many spread their garments in the way: and others cut down branches off the trees, and strawed them in the way.
9-And they that went before, and they that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna; Blessed is he that cometh
in the name of the Lord [Jehovah- the Koine Greek had no version of it] :
10- Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord [Jehovah- the Koine Greek had no version of it]: Hosanna in the highest.
In this example; they cry praises from the Psalms ("name of Jehovah", not "the LORD" in Hebrew)
referring to Jesus as being FROM God... NOT from Himself/Themselves.
"Hosanna, " : "Praise God and his Messiah, we are saved."
(Not 'God-the-Messiah')
THIS is what Jesus taught the Jews as to who he REALLY was-
Mark 12: 1- Jesus then began to speak to them in parables:
"A man planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a pit for the winepress and built a watchtower.
Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and moved to another place.
2- At harvest time he sent a servant to the tenants to collect from them some of the fruit of
the vineyard.
3- But they seized him, beat him and sent him away empty-handed.
4 Then he sent another servant to them; they struck this man on the head and treated him shamefully.
5- He sent still another, and that one they killed. He sent many others; some of them they beat, others they killed.
6- "He had one left to send, a son, whom he loved. He sent - him last of all, saying, 'They will
respect my son.'
7- But the tenants said to one another, 'This is the heir. Come, let's kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.'
8- So they took him and killed him, and threw him out of the vineyard.
9 - What then will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and kill those tenants and give the vineyard
to others.
They didn't kill the OWNER, but killed his son. CHURCHianity claims they 'killed' one of three Owners (or One of Them!
Mark 12: 29 -"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this:
'Hear, O Israel: Jehovah [ the Koine Greek used "LORD"since it had no version of God's Name yet] your God, the Lord is one."[...NOT "three"]
Mark 13:32 - But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,
but only the Father.
33- Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come.
Is a 'Trinity' seen HERE?
Did Jesus forget the God-Ghost'?
No; there's two different beings: God and His son.
Does this sound like the Almighty 'God-the-Son', a 2nd God of a 'Trinity'?
Mark 14:35- Going a little farther, he fell to the ground and prayed that if possible the hour might pass from him.
36- "Abba, Father," he said, "everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will."
The Almighty God praying to ANOTHER Almighty God to change His Almighty Mind?
How perverse the Trinity Dogma (of Catholic Origin) is!
Lately, Trinitarians have used the excuse that the Pharisees claim that Jesus was claiming himself to be God as 'proof' of the UnHoly Trinity Dogma; anyone wanting truth can easily see thru that by reading just how honest the Pharisees were-
Mark 14:55- The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death, but they did not find any.
56- Many testified falsely against him, but their statements did not agree.
57- Then some stood up and gave this false testimony against him:
58- "We heard him say, 'I will destroy this temple made with human hands and in three days will build another, not made with hands.' "
59- Yet even then their testimony did not agree.
60 -Then the high priest stood up before them and asked Jesus,
"Are you not going to answer? What is this testimony that these men are bringing against you?"
61- But Jesus remained silent and gave no answer.
Again the high priest asked him, "Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?"
62- "I am," said Jesus. "And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty
One and coming on the clouds of heaven."
63- The high priest tore his clothes. "Why do we need any more witnesses?" he asked.
64- "You have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?" They all condemned him as worthy of death.
65- Then some began to spit at him; they blindfolded him, struck him with their fists, and said, "Prophesy!"
And the guards took him and beat him.
Yes, the Churches chose a fine example for support...and they do the same to Christ as these Jewish Clergy did- with their Doctrine!
A moment before dying on stake (or cross), Jesus cried out to the TRUE God- HIS God-
Mark 15:34- And at three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?"
(which means "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?").
Jesus knew why, so this was exasperation. He died after these words.
God did not die that day, crying out to two OTHER Gods!
His SON did.
Mark 16:19- After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. 20- Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.
The Right Hand of GOD.
Not at the Right Hand of Himself or 'Themselves'!
The distinction is ALWAYS made between God and Christ...
The Book of Luke opens with an interesting perspective of what the holy spirit REALLY is:
Luke 1:13- But the angel said to him: "Do not be afraid, Zechariah;
your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to call him John.
14- He will be a joy and delight to you, and many will rejoice because of his birth,
15- for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink,
and he will be filled with the holy spirit even before he is born.
Now, does this make sense with the view held by NEARLY EVERY CHURCH that the Holy Spirit is really a Ghost-God? Would 'He' be possessing an EMBYRIO??? Did the Almighty (or 'C0-Almighties') become a "God-the-Fetus"?
The Holy Spirit is, as referred to by Gabriel and Paul "the POWER of God".
That POWER is what has filled servants of God- not a Ghost-God.
As in Matt 1:19, we see:
Luke 1:34- "How will this be," Mary asked the angel, "since I am a virgin?"
35- The angel answered, "The holy spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the son of God.
Holy Spirit / POWER of the Most High.
No Ghost-God member of a Trinity.
Luke 3:21- When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as he was praying, heaven was opened 22- and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven:
"You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased."
God speaks to Jesus as a witness to those watching, and sends His holy spirit in a form they could ALSO understand; not in Human Form, as angels used to appear, not as God did in visions as a Glowing human form,
neither as Christ himself after later being resurrected - in Human Form, for it is NOT a Being!
No- once again it appears as a Glowing Light ("LIKE" a Dove that flashes brightly in sunlight)
Trinitarians see, instead, God #1 speaking and sending God #3 to possess God #2.
It JUST ISN'T THERE!
Think and pray as to what is REALLY shown here, and remember how the Holy Spirit was described
to Mary by Gabriel: "POWER of the Most High will overshadow you".
Luke 2:27-And he came in the spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, that they
might do concerning him after the custom of the law...
Did he come inside of a Ghost-God, or with the power of God?
Luke 2:40- And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
Was he strong when inside of a Ghost-God or strong because of the POWER, the breath of God- the holy spirit?
Luke 4:1- Jesus, full of the holy spirit, left the Jordan and was led by the spirit into the wilderness.
Was Jesus FULL of a God-Person?
Possessed by a spirit?
God #1 in Heaven, Ghost-God #3 possessing God #2?
Or was Jesus FILLED with "the POWER of the Most High", that is always SEEN as a Power, as well?
Luke 4:5- The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of
the world.
6- And he said to him, "I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to.
7- If you worship me, it will all be yours."
8- Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Worship the Lord ["Jehovah in the original books he quoted] your God and serve him only.'
Satan would NEVER ask God to worship Him (and who do you think GAVE it to him, and Jesus directed Satan TO God, quoting His Word.
Also, offering God what He already had would be NO incentive to worship a created being.
Satan was tempting God's SON, NOT God Himself, no 'God-the-Son'.
Luke 4: 14- Jesus returned to Galilee in the power of the spirit, and news about him spread through the whole countryside.
15- He was teaching in their synagogues, and everyone praised him.
Not "Jesus returned with the Ghost-God giving God-the-Son power"...
There's that WORD again: POWER.
Luke 6:19 - and the people all tried to touch him, because power was coming from him and healing them all.
Again, the holy spirit he was filled with is referred to as POWER! (No "Ghost" was possessing Jesus, or flowing through him.)
As mentioned in Matthew- this account shows, again, that the holy spirit filling Christ was no "GHOST", but "POWER of the Most High"-
Lk 8:43- And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years, but no one could heal her.
44- She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and immediately her bleeding stopped.
45- "Who touched me?" Jesus asked. When they all denied it, Peter said, "Master, the people are crowding and pressing against you."
46- But Jesus said, "Someone touched me; I know that power has gone out from me."
By the way- without the mythical Ghost-God, the Trinity is also without a "leg to stand on"!
Lk 10: 21- At that time Jesus, full of joy through the holy spirit, said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.
22- "All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the son and those to whom the son chooses to reveal him."
How can you fit '3 Co-Equal God Persons' into this?
Lk 11:20- But if I drive out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
Jesus refers to the Spirit as the "Finger" of God- NOT as a Fellow God!
Luke 22:67- "If you are the Messiah," they said, "tell us." Jesus answered, "If I tell you, you will not believe me,
68- and if I asked you, you would not answer.
69- But from now on, the son of man will be seated at the right hand of the mighty God."
Again, Jesus is referring to someone ELSE as God, in who he is the right hand man'.
No Ghost-God sitting at God's LEFT.
Oh where, O where can the Trinity be?
Oh where, o where can it BE?
Lk 23:46 - Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.
Did God die...or His Son?
Was Jesus offering God the Father....God the Ghost? 'Immortal soul'?
Or his LIFE?
Luke 24:29- I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.
The holy spirit is POWER from God, not a 1/3 Ghost-God!
John- the First Chapter!
The Desperate Raft (with a leak) that churchoids try to stay afloat in!
John 1:1- In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
[They try to ignore that he was "WITH" God- for that means he wasn't LITERALLY God.
Moses, too, was "God"- Ex 7:1-"I have made thee God to Pharaoh"- Darby]
The "Word" here means Spokesman- one who SPOKE for God as the context clearly shows.
2- The same was in the beginning with God.
3- All things were made through him; and
[Notice "THROUGH" him?]
without him was not anything made that hath been made.
10- He was in the world, and the world was made through him, and the world knew him not.
14- And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full
of grace and truth.
[Note he says they SAW him- compare with the next verse!]
18- No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
> Many thousands saw Jesus!
John 1:33- And I myself did not know him, but the one who sent me to baptize with water told me,
The man on whom you see the spirit come down and remain is the one who will baptize with the holy spirit.
34- I have seen and I testify that this is God's Chosen One.
Not God.
Not 'God-the-Son'.
God's Chosen one!
(And no 'Holy Ghost'!)
35- The next day John was there again with two of his disciples.
36 -When he saw Jesus passing by, he said, �Look, the Lamb of God!�
Not, "Look! It's GOD!" , nor, "Look! It's God-the Lamb!", not 'God-the-Son'!
The Lamb >>> OF <<< God.
John 1:49- Then Nathanael declared, "Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel."
NOT "Rabbi, you are God-the-Son; you are the king of Israel."
NOT "Rabbi, you are God; you are the king of Israel!"
EVERY Jew knew what a "son" was!
John 2:13- When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
14- In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money.
15- So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the
money changers and overturned their tables.
16- To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father's house into a market!"
Not "MY House!"
And EVERY Jew knew what a father is!
He was FURIOUS over how they had defiled his God's TEMPLE!
True WORSHIP!
John 2:19-Jesus answered them, "Destroy this TEMPLE, and I will raise
it again in three days."
Jesus said he would "raise the Temple"
in three days, and WAS referring
to his body.... but FAR, FAR MORE: the True Worship
he was establishing, that the Jewish Clergy werte trying to stop!
Trinitarians latch onto that saying:
"See he resurrected himself- that proves he's God!"
They never THINK: How can Jesus RESURRECT himself...if ALIVE?
They never THINK: How can Jesus RESURRECT himself...if DEAD?
First, Jesus ISN'T God- as we see him making perfectly clear
in all his teachings.
Second, the scriptures repeatedly say GOD resurrected him.
So what did he mean?
His words here make it clear:
John 10:17- The reason my Father loves
me is that I lay down my life--
only to take it up again.
18- No one takes it from me, but I lay
it down of my own accord. I have
AUTHORITY to lay it down and
AUTHORITY to take it up again. This
COMMAND I received from my Father."
By dying as the Ransom- it GUARANTEED
his resurrection- by his Father- the
only TRUE God, who commanded it would be so.
Over and over, the REST of the Bible shows that it was his God & Father who brought
him back to life, such as~
Heb 13:20- Now may the God of peace, who through the blood of
the eternal covenant brought back from the dead our Lord Jesus,
John 3:1- Now there was a Pharisee, a man named Nicodemus who was a member of the Jewish ruling council.
2- He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God.
For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him."
Jesus didn't correct him- how COULD he, when it was true!
Jesus came >>> FROM <<< God!
God Himself ('Themselves' in the Trinity Dogma) didn't come- but God had SENT him.
John 3:16- For God so loved the world that He gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
17- For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
18- Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have
not believed in the name of God's one and only son.
Always quoted by the churches- never believed- for they believe God HIMSELF came to Earth!
By saying there are 3 Gods, and One of Them came and pretended to die for us, they contradict EVERYTHING above...
As well as the ENTIRE Bible.
It does NOT read "For God so loved the world that he gave HIMSELF".
Nor That God #1 & 3 sent God #2!
The Only-Begotten Son of God is
the term God chose to enable
all to easily understand that of
all the "sons of God"
(called 'angels') there
is only ONE that is special,
being born/receiving life directly
from Him.
His Son later was used by God to
make all things, not living AND
living- including the rest of the
messengers, the mighty spirit
beings- the angels.
(NOT winged babies)
Let's continue on our quest to
see who the "Only True God" is,
as Christ called Him, OR to find
the Supreme Beings of
Trinitarian Myth!
No CNP from Watchtowers-
just the Bible!
John 3:34- For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the spirit without limit.
35- The Father loves the son and has placed everything in his hands.
36- Whoever believes in the son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them.
Notice how, as ALWAYS God is spoken of as someone ELSE- NOT JESUS?
Notice how, as ALWAYS God is spoken of as GIVING spirit'?
John 4:22- You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
23- Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for they
are the kind of worshippers the Father seeks.
24- God is spirit [or "a" spirit] , and his worshippers must worship in spirit and truth."
Notice how Jesus SAID that?
We MUST worship so!
And GOD is referred to as BEING "spirit" (meaning a being of Invisible Force; not flesh and blood.)
"Breath, Wind" in Hebrew & Greek).
John 5:16- So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute him.
17- In his defense Jesus said to them, "My Father is always at His work to this very day, and I too am working."
18- For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God
his own Father, making himself equal with God.
(That is how they took his words- JUST as Churchianity does ; did he confirm or deny it?
Pay attention to his answer!)
19- Jesus gave them this answer:
"Very truly I tell you, the Son can do NOTHING by himself; he can do ONLY what he sees his Father doing,
because whatever the Father does the son also does.
[Does that sound like Jesus is Supreme? Almighty?
JESUS illustrates how he had to follow the direction of his God and Father]
20- For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does.
Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed.
21- For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it.
22- Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the son.
[Notice Christ said he was ENTRUSTED with judgement? It is NOT something he HAD- it was GIVEN to him.]
23- that all may honor the son even as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the son does not honor the Father, who sent him.
26- For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the son also to have life in himself.
Notice Christ said he was GRANTED to have life in himself?
It. too, is something he did NOT have, the Trinity Dogma states the three 'Persons' are 'co-equal'; we
not only never SEE such a group of Supreme Beings, but are shown that the son is NOT equal with the Father!
27- And he has given him authority to judge because he is the son of man.
[The Jewish clergy well knew Daniel's Prophecy of the son of man- one CHOSEN by God to be the King of Kings!- Dan 7)
Does THIS sound like a 'God-the-Son'?
Or the Son of God?-
John 5: 30 - By myself I can do nothing; judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to
please myself but Him who sent me.
31- "If I testify about myself, my testimony is not true.
36 - "I have testimony weightier than that of John. For the works that the Father has given me to finish�the very
works that I am doing testify that the Father has sent me.
37- And the Father who sent me has Himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor
seen his form.
Even JESUS confirms God HASN'T been SEEN ( as he once was),
and refers to God as a separate entity. CHURCHianity claims they are the same...
John 5:38- nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one He sent.
39- You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you possess eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that
testify about me,
[WAIT! The scriptures "TESTIFY?" why that must mean they are a Person, too, since the holy spirit "testifies"!]
42- but I know you. I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts.
44- How CAN you believe since you accept glory from one another but do NOT seek the glory that comes from the only God?
"The ONLY God!" yet Churchianity claims there are THREE!
Jesus denied being God IN DETAIL, so that there would be no REAL question about it- but the Jewish clergy continued with their false
accusations, and churchoid clergy with their false dogma that insults God and Christ!
John 6:28- Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"
29- Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
"The one He has sent".
So easy to understand- if you WANT to.
God SENT someone.
He did NOT come Himself!
John 6:37- All whom the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away.
38- For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of Him who sent me.
39- And this is the will of Him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those He has given me,
but raise them up at the last day.
40- For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will
raise them up at the last day."
41- At this the Jews there began to grumble about him because he said, "I am the bread that came down from heaven."
42- They said, "Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say,
'I came down from heaven'?"
43 -"Stop grumbling among yourselves," Jesus answered.
44- "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.
45- It is written in the Prophets: 'They will all be taught by God.' Everyone who has heard the Father and learned
from Him comes to me.
46- No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father.
Mad: Can the Supreme Being be "sent" by someone else? Of COURSE not!
NO ONE commands the Supreme Being; HE is the One who does the sending!
Thousands saw Jesus- NO ONE has seen God!
John 7: 16- Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from the One who sent me.
17- Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own.
18- Whoever speaks on their own does so to gain personal glory, but he who seeks the glory of the One who sent him is a man of truth;
there is nothing false about him.
19- Has not Moses given you the law? Yet not one of you keeps the law. Why are you trying to kill me?"
Does this sound like the Almighty God with all Authority and Power to YOU?
After conquering the World with his faith, it was GIVEN to him- he never HAD it to begin with.
Jesus was the Ultimate Messenger (Angel) of God- the One who SENT him- the One who TOLD Christ what to do!
John 7:18- Whoever speaks on their own does so to gain personal glory, but he who seeks the glory of the One who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him.
This verse really stands out in that Christ could NOT be God since he came to speak for his Father (and God) and NOT himself.
He was not looking for "personal glory" but the glory of "the one who sent him".
It also makes it clear that if Jesus "was God" LITERALLY then he DID seek his own glory and thus NOT be a man of truth, but a hypocrite.
John 8: 14- Jesus answered, "Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. 15- You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one.
16- But if I do judge, my decisions are true, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me.
17- In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true.
18- I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me."
Is therfe yet ANOTHER "witness"? A GHOST?
No. STILL no God-the-Ghost seen...
John 8:25- "Who are you?" they asked.
[Did Jesus say I AM? I AM God?]
"Just what I have been telling you from the beginning," Jesus replied.
26- "I have much to say in judgment of you. But He who sent me is trustworthy, and what I have heard from Him I tell the world."
27- They did not understand that he was telling them about his Father.
28- So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the son of Man, then you will know that I am he and that I do
NOTHING on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.
29 -The One who sent me is with me; He has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases Him."
30- Even as he spoke, many put their faith in him.
Over and over he showed who the True God WAS- yet CHURCHianity has ignored him for almost 2,000 years!
Now for a mis-translation DELIBERATELY made by EVERY translation I've ever seen- except
our NWT. They take the Greek term "ego eimi", and choose "I am", out of the many ways the phrase is translated in different places-
such as "I have been", "I was", and "it is I" nd more.
MANY times thruout the New
And then, in ONE SPOT ONLY, capitalize it as "I AM" to give the impression that Christ was referring to the ancient HEBREW
Name God used only ONE TIME - and they know know IT wasn't "I AM" now- Hebrew scholars saying it likely means "I shall Prove to Be",
or even "I will BE there"!~
To clearly lay this deception to rest- follow the WHOLE conversation, and choose for YOURSELF which phrase SHOULD have been used to
accurately convey what Christ said~
John 8:39- "Abraham is our father," they answered. "If you were Abraham's children,"
said Jesus, "then you would do what Abraham did.
40- As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God.
Abraham did not do such things.
41-You are doing the works of your own father."
"We are not illegitimate children," they protested. "The only Father we have is God himself."
42 -Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here.
I have not come on my own; but He sent me.
43- Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say.
44- You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires.
He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies,
he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
45- Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
46- Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, WHY don't you believe me?
47- Whoever belongs to God HEARS what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."
48- The Jews answered him, "Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?"
49- "I am not possessed by a demon," said Jesus, "but I honor my Father and you dishonor ME.
50- I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is One who seeks it, and he is the judge.
51- Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death."
52- At this they exclaimed, "Now we know that you are demon-possessed! Abraham died and so did the prophets,
yet you say that whoever obeys your word will never taste death.
53- Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?"
54- Jesus replied, "If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the One who glorifies me.
55- Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and obey his word.
56- Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad."
57- "You are not yet fifty years old," they said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!"
58- "Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I was!"
[My insertion: all other translations deceptively put "AM"]
59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.
["Ego Eimi" was used by Gabriel, John, Paul, Peter, Timothy, etc...
( Matt 26:25- And Judas, who was betraying Him, said, "Surely it is not I [ ego eimi] , Rabbi?� Jesus said to him,
�You have said it yourself.�
Judas used the EXACT WORDS Jesus did at John 8:58, where translators deceive churchoids into thinking the ancient symbolic
HEBREW name God used only ONE TIME was being used!)
Jesus had just run out those setting up a scam in the TEMPLE-
John2:15- And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them
all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out
the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
16- And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make
not my Father's house an house of merchandise.
He was FURIOUS over how they had defiled his God's TEMPLE!
True WORSHIP!
John 2:19-Jesus answered them, "Destroy this TEMPLE, and I will raise
it again in three days."
Jesus said he would "raise the Temple"
in three days, and WAS referring
to his body.... but FAR, FAR MOREas well: the True Worship
he was establishing, that the Jewish Clergy were trying to stop!
Trinitarians latch onto that saying:
"See he resurrected himself- that proves he's God!"
They never THINK: How can Jesus RESURRECT himself...if ALIVE?
They never THINK: How can Jesus RESURRECT himself...if DEAD?
First, Jesus ISN'T God- as we see him making perfectly clear
in all his teachings.
Second, the scriptures repeatedly say GOD resurrected him.
So what did he mean?
His words here make it clear:
John 10:17- The reason my Father loves
me is that I lay down my life
only to take it up again.
18- No one takes it from me, but I lay
it down of my own accord. I have
AUTHORITY to lay it down and
AUTHORITY to take it up again. This
COMMAND I received from my Father.
By dying as the Ransom- it GUARANTEED
his resurrection- by his Father- the
only TRUE God, who commanded it would be so.
Jesus 'raised' himself by dying for us all!
John 4:23- But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth,
for such the Father seeks to worship him.
24- God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
Why didn't Jesus say to worship 'Himself'?
Why didn't Jesus say to worship a 'Holy Ghost'?
Did he say we must worship God INSIDE a 'Holy Ghost'- or does "spirit" really refer to the power of the one whom is being referred to?
John 10:12- He who is a hireling and not a shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees;
and the wolf snatches them and scatters them. 13- He flees because he is a hireling and cares nothing for the sheep.
14- I am the good shepherd; I know my own and my own know me,
15- as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my >>> LIFE <<<< [NOT just the body!] for the sheep.
16- And I have other sheep [ Gentiles/Future disciples ] , that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. So there shall be one flock, one shepherd.
17 For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life, that I may take it again.
18- No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again; this authority I have received from my Father.
2 Cor 5:15- And he died for all, that those who live might live no longer for themselves but for him who for their sake died and was raised.
JESUS died- NOT just his body. GOD never died- but JESUS did.
The infamous spin of the clergy 'proving' Christ to be God:
John 10: 22- Then came the Festival of Dedication at Jerusalem. It was winter,
23- and Jesus was in the temple courts walking in Solomon's Colonnade.
24- The Jews who were there gathered around him, saying, "How long will
you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly."
25- Jesus answered, "I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in
my Father's name testify about me,
26- but you do not believe because you are not my sheep.
27- My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
28- I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch
them out of my hand.
29- My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can
snatch them out of my Father's hand.
30- I and the Father are one."
It's just COMICAL! They teach they are different persons- yet claim this PROVES Jesus is God Almighty!
A man at the door did- and I asked him if that meant Jesus was also the Father.
He said Jesus said it, and closed the door!
It's MADNESS!
Adam and Eve were one, many husbands and wives are, real Christians are one with God and Christ (John 17)
Even Trinnies know Jesus ISN'T the Father- but still stick to that ploy!
Notice how Jesus denies their pretense; their false charge-
John 10: 31- Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them,
"I have shown you many good works from the Father.
For which of these do you stone me?"
33- "We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for
blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
34- Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are
"gods" '?
35- If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came�and Scripture
cannot be broken�
36 -what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent
into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said,
'I am God's Son'?
37- Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.
38- But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works,
that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the
Father."
39- Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.
HMMMMM! Clergy (like the Pharisees) say Jesus IS God Almighty.
Jesus himself denied it, saying he was His SON, instead.
WHICH should we believe??????????????
John 11:41- So they took away the stone. Then Jesus
looked up and said, "Father, I thank you that you have
heard me.
42- I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for
the benefit of the people standing here, that they may
believe that you sent me."
Jesus was praying to the One he referred to as "God",
and "MY God", thanking Him for working thru him.
He wasn't talking to any 'God-the-Ghost'- he was praying to his God and Father- Jehovah!
John 12: 12- The next day the great crowd that had come for
the Festival heard that Jesus was on his way to Jerusalem.
13- They took palm branches and went out to meet him, shouting, "Hosanna! "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!"
[Ps 118:25- Save now, we beseech thee, O Jehovah: O Jehovah, we beseech thee, send now prosperity.
26- Blessed be he that cometh in the name of Jehovah: We have blessed you out of the house of Jehovah. - ASV]
"Blessed is the king of Israel!"
14- Jesus found a young donkey and sat on it, as it is written:
15- "Do not be afraid, Daughter Zion; see, your king is coming,
seated on a donkey's colt."
16- At first his disciples did not understand all this. Only after
Jesus was glorified did they realize that these things had
been written about him and that these things had been
done to him.
Coming in someone's Name simply means that you are
representing, and speaking for that other person and/or doing things with the others permission or authority.
Christ said he was doing that for another Person: God. His Father.
"Immanuel"= With Us is God
"Jesus"=Salvation of Jehovah
Highlite this- as all of Christ's words do.
It is Churchianity and their deceptive dogmas, like the Trinity
Dogma that makes all these endless references twisted and meaningless.
Most Trinitarians I've spoken to say "Jehovah" is another Name of Jesus, as they claim of "I AM".
Yet they ALL belittle it, usually using the excuse of pronounciation...
I wonder how they try to make sense of what Christ says next:
John 12: 27- "Now my soul is troubled, and what shall I say? 'Father, save me from this hour'? No, it was
for this very reason I came to this hour.
28- Father, glorify your name!" Then a voice came from heaven, "I have glorified it, and will glorify it again."
29- The crowd that was there and heard it said it had thundered; others said an angel had spoken to him.
The 'Name' Jesus made known was NOT "LORD"!
John 12:44- Then Jesus cried out, "Those who believe in me do not believe in me only, but in the One who sent me.
ONE...but Churchinaity says all THREE are "One"- and why does he not refer to the 'Holy-GhostGod'?
Aaaaaand Jesus yet AGAIN makes the CLEAREST distinction between them both!
45- When they look at me, they see the one who sent me.
[As when he said "I and the Father are one", and "when you've seen me, you've seen the Father"!]
49- For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me COMMANDED me to say all that I have spoken.
50 -I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has TOLD me to say."
Even small children EASILY see what Christ meant here: he is just like his Father- God!
In addition- NO ONE can COMMAND God and tell HIM what to do!
Only churchoids are gullible enough to see Jesus claiming to be God in those words- AND, it would
mean Jesus is ALSO the Father, sending Himself, talking to Himself- and more. Deterioration spirals rapidly, at that point!
How much plainer could it have been written????
Here we AGAIN see God referred to as another entity separate from Christ-
John 13:2- The evening meal was in progress, and the devil had already prompted Judas, the son of Simon
Iscariot, to betray Jesus.
3- Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power, and that he had come from
God and was returning to God;
4- so he got up from the meal, took off his outer clothing, and wrapped a towel around his waist.
5- After that, he poured water into a basin and began to wash his disciples' feet, drying them with the towel
that was wrapped around him.
HMMMM! If the Trinity were REAL, don't you think it
would READ a LITTLE different?
" God-the-Son always had this power, and was about
to return to his Fellow Gods"? maybe?
AGAIN-
John 14:1-Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me.
COMPLETELY meaningless if he WERE God.
He would have said, then "Trust in me- for I am God!"
Trinitarians whine that when Jesus said " I and the Father are One",
and "when you've seen me, you've seen the Father"- that it 'proves'
Jesus is God...so it's been said for almost 2,000 years!
All I ask is HOW?
Is Jesus the Father?
Or (Gasp!) does it mean they think alike, and work together in perfect harmony?
Judge for yourself as we next read-
John 14:5- Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?"
6- Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
7- If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."
8- Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
9- Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone
who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
10- Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not
speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
11 -Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the
evidence of the works themselves.
12- Very truly I tell you, all who have faith in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do
even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
13 -And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Jesus wanted to let his followers know they would STILL have guidance after he was put to death.
He tells them they would be sent an "advocate/Comforter/helper"-"the Spirit of Truth"!
Here is the main scripture that Trinitarians see the latter- and it IS easy to see a Ghost, if one has not read all the other
details of the Holy Spirit in the Bible.
So what do YOU see- Guidance Personified, Christ's spirit- or
a Holy-Ghost-God?
John 14:16-And I will pray to the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17-Even the spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know
him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18-I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19-Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20-At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21-He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved
of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Was Jesus referring to a Fellow 'God-Person', the 'Holy Ghost' of Churchianity?
Remember: The greek word translated as "spirit" literally means "wind or breath" illustrating and unseen force/power,
thus Gabriel referred to it as "the Power of the Most High" (God).
Note the context: Jesus DEFINED it! "The Breath of Truth", saying that he would be IN his followers, and that they would be loved
by his God and Father who SENDS His breath (spirit) of truth!
Jesus said the same thing in different ways, after he was resurrected;
1- Matt 28:18- And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
19- Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the
Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20- teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, >>> I am with you always,
even to the end of the age." <<<
2- Acts 1:8- But you will receive power when the holy spirit [spirit of truth] comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem,
and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."
When Jesus said "in the name of..." he WASN'T talking about the 3 trinitarian Gods and their Names- for the Holy Spirit HAS no name,
no personality, AND it is often CALLED "IT" by both God, Christ, and bible writers.
We are not possessed by a Ghost; there is no Being living inside us speaking to us, making us do things!
Yet we always FEEL the COMFORT, the POWER that comes from God's Holy Spirit- the force He uses to carry out His will- and that is
why Jesus refers to IT as a "he" sometimes- for he always is conscience of the One who is SENDIN G it- his God, his Father-
Jehovah!
John 15:1 -I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener.
2- He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful.
3- You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.
4- Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
5- I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.
6- If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.
[Fire- used to portray DESTRUCTION]
7- If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.
8- This is to my Father's glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.
9- As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love.
10- If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commands and remain in his love.
11- I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete.
12- My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.
13- Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends.
[Churchianity teaches Jesus never did!]
14- You are my friends if you do what I command.
15- I no longer call you servants, because servants do not know their master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
16- You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you
so that you might go and bear fruit�fruit that will last�and
so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you.
17- This is my command: Love each other.
So we see yet more about the Comfort Jesus would send them/us; Jesus himself "remains" in us; not like a demon-possession of old, but in spirit, and THRU Holy Spirit.
We can always see in Jesus words the fact that his Father is his God- the Supreme Being- not the Imaginary 3-in-One 'Co-Equal Cartoon Triad of Churchianity!
John 15:25- But this cometh to pass, that the word may be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
26- But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the spirit [breath] of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he [Greek ekinose*] shall bear witness of me:
27- and ye also bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.
* Ekinos meaning in Strong's Exhaustive Concordance : he, it, the other, that very
Translated according to interpreters opinion.
"it [Greek ekinose*] shall bear witness of me" will fit the REST of the Bible, since it has no name or face (never seen in visions of God), is poured out, fills people, is divided into portions- and was even up Job's Nose!
Job 27:3- All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils...
When Jesus referred to it as "Comforter" he WASN'T talking about a
Ghost-God; there is no Being living/possessing us speaking thru us, making us do things!
Yet we always FEEL it!
John 16: 1-All this I have told you so that you will not fall away.
2- They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the hour is coming when those who kill you will think they are offering
a service to God.
3- They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me.
This is a thoughtful reference for several reasons.
Unlike his brief reference to the holy spirit in chapter 15, he NEVER speaks of the spirit as he does his God & Father.
He NEVER prays or honors it, never speaks of the "3" of them together, never encourages any to honor, or worship it.
Here, as he ALWAYS does, he talks about God as a separate PERSON completely. (Not "a service to ME, Us, the Holy Ghost" )
AND it shows why so many churchoids are so fanatic- they THINK they are honoring their 3 Gods by their actions!
Is THIS proof that the Holy Spirit is a PERSON? The Ghost-God?
Sure LOOKS that way-
John 16: 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth: It is expedient for
you that I go away; for if I go not away, the Comforter will
not come unto you; but if I go, I will send him unto you.
8- And he, when he is come, will convict the world in respect
of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9- of sin, because they believe not on me;
10- of righteousness, because I go to the Father, and ye behold
me no more;
11- of judgment, because the prince of this world hath been judged.
12- I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear
them now.
13- Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he shall guide
you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself;
but what things soever he shall hear, these shall he speak:
and he shall declare unto you the things that are to come.
14- He shall glorify me: for he shall take of mine, and shall
declare it unto you.
15- All things whatsoever the Father hath are mine: therefore
said I, that he taketh of mine, and shall declare it unto you.
Checking the Greek for "he shall speak,etc"- I was surprised to
find that it was translated from the Greek "IT shall be leading, talking, etc.".
So it demonstrates that what the translator THINKS the Spirit is
FLAVORS how he translates the Greek thought.
However, the bottom line is, and always WILL be to a true
Christian- what the Bible says.
As noted, there has been much shown- as has been covered- and
even more coming, as we look verse- by- verse in our journey
thru the Bible towards Revelation!
John 16:25-Though I have been speaking figuratively, a
time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of
language but will tell you plainly about my Father.
26- In that day you will ask in my name. I am not saying
that I will ask the Father on your behalf.
27- No, the Father himself loves you because you have
loved me and have believed that I came from God.
28- I came from the Father and entered the world; now
I am leaving the world and going back to the Father."
GASP?...
WHAT??? Jesus came FROM God???
Isn't he supposed to BE God, according to the endless
Trinitarians????
John 17:1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:
"Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.
2- For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life
to all those you have given him.
3- Now this is eternal life: that they know you,
the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
NOTE: JESUS said his FATHER was the ONLY TRUE GOD.
This ONE QUOTE by ITSELF COMPLETELY destroys the false
dogma of the Trinity! 5:44- How CAN you believe since you accept glory from one another but do NOT seek the glory that comes from the only God?
John 17:4- I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave
me to do.
5- And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you
before the world began.
Trinitarians sometimes latch on to this, saying he was God before
becoming man, and temporarily gave up godhood....Where does it ever
say anything like that?
Please SHOW me! Is that too much to ask?
It DOES tell us that he was God's Spokesman (Word). And since men are
described by God as a little lower than the angels, it is clear that just being
in Heaven was Glory- then being alonside God as the Word- and given the
honor to make all creation, as directed by his Father- it's plain to
see what he was REALLY referring to without inserting vile clergy-thoughts
into scripture!
John 17:6- I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.
7 -Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you.
8- For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.
9- I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours.
10- All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them.
11- I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.
20 - I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word;
21- that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.
So, another Trini-tactic dissolves in smoke; from these words, it is CLEAR that when Jesus said he and his Father were One- he wasn't talking Identity!
And notice the reference to the Name of God?
Just because later copyists removed it, it doesn't destroy it: Jehovah (Yehovah)!
John 17:22- And the glory which You gave me I have given them, that they may be one
just as we are one:
23 I in them, and You in me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that
the world may know that You have sent me, and have loved them as You have loved me.
24 Father, I desire that they also whom You gave me may be with Me where
I am, that they may behold my glory which You have given me; for You loved
me before the foundation of the world.
25 O righteous Father! The world has not known You, but I have known You;
and these have known that You sent me.
26-- And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love
with which You loved me may be in them, and I in them.
Again, the unity of Christ with is Father is shown (Not the Trinitarian fairy Tale of a 3-in-One God), and a reference to the Name of God, removed by most
copyists, Translators- and Clergy- respected only by those He draws to Him!
Also, remember how the Trinnies always quote Jesus saying "I and the Father are ONE" as 'proof' of their of their 'Triune Godhead'?
It quickly shrivels up in view of Jesus says HIS FOLLOWERS are One--- JUST as THEY are!
Immediately after being resurrected:
John 20:17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to my Father;
but go to my brethren and say to them, "I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God."
Churchoids completely ignore Jesus' words here.
They KNOW a Supreme Being can't be under ANOTHER Supreme Being!
And they TEACH that their 3 God-Beings are each God, but not 3 Gods!
So no 'GodJesus' was praying to 2 OTHER Gods, nor to 'Himself', or even 'THEMSELVES'!
He was praying to his GOD!
Holy Spirit ("Breath, Wind" in Hebrew and Greek)
John 20:21 So Jesus said to them again, "Peace to you! As the Father has sent me, I also send you."
22- And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them,"Receive the holy spirit.
23- If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."
No possession of a Ghost; they received POWER- the word always associated with the Holy Spirit from God!
John 20:24 Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came.
25- The other disciples therefore said to him,"We have seen the Lord." So he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails,
and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe."
26 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst,
and said, "Peace to you!"
27 Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.�
28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"
29 Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
Faith had DEVASTATED; His "Messiah" brutally killed, this man appeared claiming to BE Jesus- but he didn't LOOK the same...
He told him to feel his hands, and as he did, saw the nail wounds- and FELT them!
Euphoric shock overwhelmed him, crying out " My Lord and My God!", overwhelmed to realise it WAS Jesus, and that God HAD resurrected him!
Christ would have CORRECTED Thomas, if he had applied BOTH titles to him- for remember, he had just appeared to Mary Magdalene,
saying "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your
Father; and to MY God, and your God. "
Thomas had praised them BOTH; the One he knew was the Messiah, and the One who resurrected him- the Almighty!
The ONLY way Thomas might have applied both titles to him would be if he became an apostate, and like churchoids,
ignored what Jesus said and taught...
John 21:19-This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God.
Not glorify himself.
Notice that God is ALWAYS spoken of as One separate from Christ.
And that the holy spirit is never referred to as BEING God, and rarely mentioned AT ALL!
AND, that, contrary to Churchianity, Jesus DID die?
Acts 1:1- In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and to teach
2- until the day he was taken up to heaven, after giving instructions through the holy spirit to the apostles he had chosen.
3- After his suffering, he presented himself to them and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days and
spoke about the kingdom of God.
4- On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command:
"Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.
5- For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the holy spirit."
Now, put Tradition aside, and MEDITATE on what's said here; is the holy spirit a GHOST? Are they to be BAPTISED in a GHOST?
Or, is it referring to the "Power of the Most High", as the spirit was described by Gabriel? The Apostles never had a Ghost-God materialize and give them instruction,
but were being directed by the Power of God to do so.
AND, notice what the 'Gospel' Jesus preached was about?
Acts 1:6- So when they met together, they asked him, "Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?"
7- He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.
8- But you will receive POWER when the holy spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea
and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."
9 -After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.
Again, the Holy Spirit described as POWER!
And where is all this 'Co_equality' Churchianity claims their 3 'God-Persons' have?
The scriptures state men wrote them down as guided by God.
Acts 1:15- In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) 16- and said, "Brothers
and sisters, the Scripture had to be fulfilled in which the holy spirit spoke long ago through David concerning Judas, who served as guide for those
who arrested Jesus.
God does things with the POWER of Holy Spirit, Holy "Breath", "Wind"!
No Ghost possessed David and spoke thru him; God's power moved David to write down what Jehovah was showing him.
God does things with the POWER of Holy Spirit, Holy "Breath", "Wind" (as it means
in Hebrew and Greek) . Notice how God REVEALS it to all Christians- not as
a Ghost, or any kind of Person, as God, Christ and angels have:
Acts 2:1- When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place.
2- Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled
the whole house where they were sitting.
3- They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest
on each of them.
4- All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other
tongues as the Spirit enabled them.
God WANTED them to know what IT was; His POWER!
The sound of WIND (spirit), the physical appearance, not of little FACES-
but power- LIKE 'tongues' of 'flame'; FLAME the one source of energy and
power they ALL used!
Acts 2:16- this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
17- "And in the last days it shall be, God declares,
that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh,
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams;
18- yea, and on my menservants and my maidservants in those days
I will pour out my spirit; and they shall prophesy.
Is one of 3 'God-Persons' "poured out" by one or two of the OTHER 'God-Persons'?
Our does God "pour out" POWER to His believers?
The distinction between Christ and God is seen once again:
Acts 2:22-"Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves also know�
23- him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death;
24- whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that he should be held by it.
25- For David says concerning him:
" I foresaw the LORD (Jehovah in Hebrew) always before my face, For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken.
26- Therefore my heart rejoiced, and my tongue was glad;
Moreover my flesh also will rest in hope.
27- For You will not leave my soul in Hades,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.
28- You have made known to me the ways of life;
You will make me full of joy in Your presence."
29-"Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day.
30- Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, He would raise up the Christ to sit on his throne,
31 -he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that his soul was not left in Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption.
32- This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses.
33- Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the holy spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear.
To review: God was the One performing miracles thru Christ (by holy spirit).
God raised him from the dead,
God placed him on the Throne.
No mention of the Holy Spirit being a Ghost-God. The "Power of the Most High" is POURED OUT! (Only in Church Dogma)
Acts 2:34 -For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself:
" The LORD (Jehovah in Hebrew) said to my Lord, " Sit at My right hand, 35- Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."
36- "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."
NOTE: GOD (not Jesus) MADE Christ Lord; he wasn't ALREADY Lord.
Acts 2: 38 Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of
the holy spirit.
Was 1/3 of God given as a Gift?
Or and Gabriel described it "the POWER of the Most High"?
Acts 3:12 When Peter saw this, he said to them: "People of Israel, why does this surprise you? Why do you stare at us as if by our own power or godliness we
had made this man walk?
13- The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him
before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go.
14- You disowned the Holy and Righteous One and asked that a murderer be released to you.
15- You killed the author of life, but God raised him from the dead. We are witnesses of this.
Here we see God referred to as ONE Personage glorifying and resurrecting Jesus.
AND, Jesus referred to as a SERVANT!
Was Jehovah ever referred to as a servant???
This is like he's talking directly to CHURCHianity!:
Acts 3: 17 "Now, brothers and sisters, I know that you acted in ignorance, as did your leaders.
18- But this is how God fulfilled what he had foretold through all the prophets, saying that his Messiah would suffer.
19- Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord ("Jehovah" in the
book quoted from),
20- and that he may send the Messiah, who has been appointed for you �even Jesus.
21 -Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.
22- For Moses said, 'The Lord ("Jehovah" in the book quoted from), your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own
people; you must listen to everything he tells you.
23- Anyone who does not listen to him will be completely cut off from their people.'
God is not the One that would suffer as a man- it is the Messiah He sent!
Acts 4:10- know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth,
whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, [ denied by Churchianity] that this man stands before you healed.
11 -Jesus is " 'the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.'
12- Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name GIVEN under heaven by which we must be saved."
Notice the contrast between the One True God and Jesus His son?
God has GIVEN Jesus as Savior, the Name (name meaning Salvation of Jehovah") to be saved by.
He didn't become a man- His SON did.
Acts 5:29-Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, "We ought to obey God rather than men.
30- The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
31-Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. "
Why didn't the Apostles start teaching the Trintity to the crowds- telling them how God resurrected Himself/Themselves- even though ALIVE?
"Tree" - not "cross'?
OOOO! SO many questions for churchoids to consider!
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Acts 5:32- And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the holy ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
The mis-translation of "spirit" as "Ghost" misleads. God, thru His Power - the holy spirit- relayed this information to them.
God doesn't GIVE another God, or 1/3 of Themselves! He gives of His POWER!
Many Trinitarians claim Jesus gave up 'being God' when he became a man.
Stephen saw otherwise; he saw Christ AFTER being resurrected to heaven:
Acts 7:55-But he, being full of the holy ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on
the right hand of God.
God referred to separately, Christ on God's "right hand".
Even others saw the holy spirit for what it was: POWER.
Stephen wasn't FULL of one 1/3 of the Gods....while 2 were in heaven!
Acts 8:17-Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the holy ghost.
18-And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the holy ghost was given, he offered them money,
19-Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the holy ghost.
20-But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.
Was 1/3 God possessing those receiving 'Him'? Or were they receiving the Power (Breath) of God?
Here is an interesting reference to holy spirit:
Acts 8:26-And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem
unto Gaza, which is desert.
27-And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the
charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
28-Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
29-Then the spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
If by now, after reading all these many scriptures (in order from Genesis!), you are still thinking the Holy Spirit might be a GHOST-God- why was the ANGEL
there with Philip?
To me, it's easy to see that God was guiding both the angel and Philip WITH His spirit (Breath) - His POWER that his servants are "Filled" with, which is
"Poured" out and divided. Not Coming 'Themselves' and bringing an angel to relay a simple message...
We all have to choose for ourselves!
Acts 10:34- Then Peter began to speak: "I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism
35- but accepts those from every nation who fear him and do what is right.
36 -You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the
good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.
37- You know what has happened throughout the province of Judea, beginning
in Galilee after the baptism that John preached�
38- how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the holy spirit and power, and
how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power
of the devil, because God was with him.
The TRUE relationship of the Only True God- and His Son.
No shared 'Godhood' , No Ghost-God. GOD (a separate Being) was WITH Jesus.
I/3 God did NOT anoint (appoint) another 1/3 God, with ANOTHER 1/3 God-Ghost!
Acts 10:44- While Peter was still speaking these words, the holy spirit came on all who heard the message.
45- The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished
that the gift of the holy spirit had been poured out even on Gentiles.
46- For they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God.
The Holy Spirit is "poured out" and referred to as a Gift. No Ghost-God!
God, or 1/3 God was never poured out.
Acts 13:9 -Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the holy spirit,
looked straight at Elymas and said,
10 -"You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right!
You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting
the right ways of the Lord?
11- Now the hand of the Lord is against you. You are going to be blind for a
time, not even able to see the light of the sun."
Paul is "FILLED" with Holy Spirit!
Was he filled with a Ghost-God?
Or with "the Power of the Highest"?
Acts 15:7- After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them:
"Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among
you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the
gospel and believe.
8- God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving
the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.
If one just LISTENS to the scriptures they CLEARLY show the Spirit to
be God's POWER- NOT a God-Ghost. Even here it doesn't say
ANYTHING to support the church dogma: God GIVES them His Holy
Spirit. Does He give HIMSELF?One of 'Themselves'? No- He gives His POWER, which "fills" them
as liquid in a glass.
The many references to the Spirit are completely meaningless when trying
to pound the Square Peg (Trinity) into the Round Hole (God).
That's why the Catholic Church came up with the term "Sacred Mystery"!
To add credibility to nonsense in the minds of the gullible!
Acts 17:29- Therefore since we are God's offspring, we should not think
that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone�an image made by human design and skill.
30- In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands
all people everywhere to repent.
31- For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has APPOINTED. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.
Why do the Apostles never say that God raised HIMSELF from the dead?
They never say "God died for us"..
They ALWAYS say God resurrected Jesus.
And that Jesus was APPOINTED, not by Himself- but by GOD.
Trinitarians have to work very hard to fill the endlessly appearing holes
of their little lifeboat with anything they can find...but it always sinks fast!- because they even deny he or 'They' DIED!
Acts 19:5- On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.
6- When Paul placed his hands on them, the holy spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.
7 -There were about twelve men in all.
Were these 12 men possessed by a Ghost-God, or filled with the
"Power of the Most High"?
Romans 1: 7- To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be his holy people: Grace and peace to you from God our Father AND
from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Thus, with the opening of most NT books, the distinction between, and
the harmony of both God (Jehovah) and Christ are shown.
Since they both always work together,they have similar titles and roles. We know Christ is to Judge, but notice this:
Romans 2:16- This will take place on the day when God judges everyone's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
"MY" Gospel????? Can you understand what THAT means?
Rom 3:29- Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too,
30- since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith.
"There is only ONE God"- he's not talking about the harmony between 3 God-Beings, folks!
Jesus said the same thing- remember?
And Jesus serves and worships the SAME God, the One he said is the ONLY true God. (John 17:3)
Rom 5:1- Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
2- through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.
There's that pesky word "through" again!
Rom 5:8- But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were
still sinners, Christ died for us.
9- Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall
we be saved from God's wrath through him!
10- For if, while we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to Him
through the death of his Son, how much more, having been
reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!
11- Not only is this so, but we also boast in God through our
Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received
reconciliation.
The word "through", says it all.
God didn't nor can die. But Jesus did- even tho they deny THAT, too!
Jesus SAVES us from the wrath of.....GOD!
HIS God and Father!
Romans 7:24- What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?
25- Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
Again- God distinguished from Christ.
If the Apostles believed in the Trinity- they CERTAINLY would
have referred to Christ, God, and the Spirit in an ENTIRELY different manner.
Let's re-word this after inserting the 'Trinity'!~
25- Thanks be to God Jesus, who delivers me!
25- Thanks be to our Triune Lords, who deliver me!
25- Thanks be to the Holy Trinity, who deliver me!
25- Thanks be to God-the-Father, God-the-Son, and God-the-Ghost, who deliver me!
25- Thanks be to the Holy Essences, who deliver me!
25- Thanks be to the Holy Natures, who deliver me!
25- Thanks be to our Triune Godhead, who deliver me!
YEEEECCCHHH!
For those of you that know what the Holy Spirit REALLY is (the POWER of God, which Christ uses),
it will be very easy to understand the next verses-
Rom 8:9- But ye are not in the flesh but in the spirit, if so be that the spirit of God dwelleth in you. But if any man hath not
the spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10- And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the spirit is life because of righteousness.
Now, try to read the 'Trinity' into THAT!
We christians don't have a body of flesh anymore, but have the body of the Ghost-God ?
Christ's Spirit is ANOTHER Ghost ( or maybe the SAME Ghost-God)?
And we are possessed by the Ghost-God AND Christ-the-Ghost, as implied in THIS translation~
Amplified Bible:"But you are not living the life of the flesh, you are living the life of the Spirit, if the [Holy] Spirit of God [really] dwells within you [directs and controls you].
But if anyone does not possess the [Holy] Spirit of Christ, he is none of His [he does not belong to Christ, is not truly a child of God].
This translation maks it a LITTLE clearer~
Living Bible: But you are not like that. You are controlled by your new nature if you have the Spirit of God living in you.
(And remember that if anyone doesn’t have the Spirit of Christ living in him, he is not a Christian at all.)
Rom 8:16-The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God
Now, for those thinking of a way to reject this, notice that he compares the Spirit of God to the Spirit of Man; both having a force- a mental
POWER that they direct where they choose!
When the two link up- it's a beautiful thing: a Real CHRISTIAN.
And, also notice he refers to the spirit as "ITSELF"?-KJV
No possession of a Ghost-God, but the direction and help from "the Power of the Most High"~
Rom 8:26-Likewise the spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the spirit>>> itself <<< maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27-And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Notice the fact that the spirit, AGAIN, is referred to (again) as "itself'...?
And JESUS is the one searching our hearts!
Trinitarians claim not only that God's Spirit is a fellow God, a Ghost-God, but that IT also has a Name: "Holy"! (At least that is what one just TOLD me!)
HOLY Cow! That someone has to stretch their Imagination THAT far to continue to believe in such a Juvenile Dogma!
Yet they find things they cling to like life preservers!
Here the Spirit is referred to as having a "mind", "intercessing" and some type of "groanings" that, for some reason "can't be uttered"...Why?
Seriously, though- if those were the only kind of references to IT- I, too, would
start thinking of it that way again, too- as I did when a Catholic.
Buuuuut, yet AGAIN the reference to it as an "it". Together with the scriptures
listed here IN ORDER from Revelation, we see God and Christ referrring to it
as an "it" and as "Power" that is poured out, divided out to a large group- and
that is NEVER seen EXCEPT as a Power.
How can a person know a Nameless, Faceless Ghost-God? (Rhetorical Question)
So, for those of you that KNOW what the Spirit of God REALLY is, Paul's words make
PERFECT sense; when we pray to God, His Spirit conveys our inmost thoughts
and perceptions, so that God KNOWS what we are asking for- even if not clear!
The Holy Spirit, as Gabriel best described it- "the Power of the Most High"!
Rom 8:31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us,
who can be against us?
32 He who did not spare his own son, but gave him up for us all how will he not
also, along with him, graciously give us all things?
33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God
who justifies.
34 Who then can condemn? No one. Christ Jesus who died- more than that,
who was raised to life is at the right hand of God and is also
interceding for us.
If the Triune God came 'Themselves', as Churchianity claims- this makes NO sense at ALL!
And, remember- they DENY Christ died in the first place!
Rom 9:1 -I speak the truth in Christ- I am not lying, my conscience confirms it through the holy spirit
2 -I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart.
He did NOT have to ask a 'Holy Ghost' to see if he was speaking truth;
God's Power was in him, guiding him; he instinctively KNEW, because of that.
Rom 14:17- For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking,
but of righteousness, peace and joy in the holy spirit,
18- because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and
receives human approval.
Christ and God differentiated as always.
Romans 15:5- May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give
you the same attitude of mind toward each other that Christ Jesus had,
6- so that with one mind and one voice you may glorify
the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Reading the scriptures with Traditional Teachings in mind blinds one from
seeing the SIMPLEST truths- such as Jesus having, serving, and obeying
the commands of God- not BEING God; for the Supreme Being, who Christ
called the ONLY True God, is not subject to ANYONE, as JESUS is- to HIM.
Yet AGAIN, the Holy Spirit is described as POWER:
Rom 15:13- May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you
trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by
the power of the holy spirit.
Rom 15:15- Yet I have written you quite boldly on some points to remind you of them again, because of the grace God gave me
16- to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles. He gave me the
priestly duty of proclaiming the gospel of God, so that the Gentiles
might become an offering acceptable to God, sanctified by the holy spirit.
Let's try imagining how Paul would have wrote this if he believed in
the Trinity Dogma:
" Yet I have written you quite boldly on some points to remind
you of them again, because of the grace God-the-Father gave me
to be a minister the Holy TrinityGod-theFather, God-the-Son,and the Holy Ghost to the Gentiles. He gave me the priestly duty of proclaiming the gospel of the Triune God, so that the Gentiles might become an offering acceptable to the Holy Trinity, sanctified by the Holy Ghost-God."
Above all, Christ taught his followers to help people to KNOW God,
so every reference would be made to that purpose. Instead, we find
the clear, concise, and repeated reference to ONE God- the ONLY
True God- no foul Trinity, nor Trinitese references in God's Word.
God sends Christ, empowered and directed thru the POWER of God-
the Holy Spirit.
And yet ANOTHER description of the Holy Spirit being POWER, rather
than the mythical Ghost-God of CHURCHianity:
Rom 15:17- Therefore I glory in Christ Jesus in my service to God.
18- I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has
accomplished through me in leading the Gentiles to obey God
by what I have said and done-
19- by the power of signs and wonders, through the power of the Spirit of God.
And a clear distinction between God and Christ.
Let's to the Trinitarian Game again with THIS verse; this is getting FUN! Heh!
"Therefore I glory in GodJesus, who is My God in my service to the
Triune God. I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ
my God has accomplished through me in leading the Gentiles to obey THEM
by what I have said and done by the power of signs and wonders,
through the power of God-the-Ghost."
FOUL, isn't it?
Paul ends his letter to the Roman congregation with the non-Trinitarian-
Rom 16:27- to the only wise God be glory forever through Jesus Christ! Amen.
Trinitarians seem to read it:
" the only wise Trinity be glory forever through Jesus Christ, God-the-Son! "
Yecch!
1 Corinthians opens with: 1 Cor 1:3- Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Not any Triune Godhead!
1 Cor 1:4- I always thank my God for you because of His
grace given you in Christ Jesus.
5- For in him you have been enriched in every way with
all kinds of speech and with all knowledge
6- God thus confirming our testimony about Christ among you.
7- Therefore you do not lack any spiritual gift as you eagerly
wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed.
8- He will also keep you firm to the end, so that you will be
blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9- God is faithful, who has called you into fellowship with
his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.
No Trini-babble in these verses, as always; the Only True God has given His Son-
not come Himself, or, heh, 'Themselves'!.
So CLEAR!
People often see only what they WANT to see...
1 Cor 1:28- God chose the lowly things of this world and the
despised things and the things that are not to nullify the things that are,
29- so that no one may boast before him.
30- It is because of Him that you are in Christ Jesus,
who has become for us Wisdom from God that is,
our righteousness, holiness and redemption.
God never came to you as a man, or a 'God-man' .
Yet, once again, notice that no 'Ghost-God' is mentioned?
Truth IS truth, and easily seen- until satanic dogma in man stands up!
1 Cor 2:4- My message and my preaching were not with wise and
persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the spirit's power,
5- so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God's power.
It's like the scriptures are crying out: "Do you GET it yet???"
1 Cor 2:7- No, we declare God's wisdom, a mystery that has been
hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.
8- None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they
would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9- However, as it is written:
"What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived
these things God has prepared for those who love him"
10- for God has revealed them to us by his spirit.
Has a Ghost-God appeared to any of YOU revealing God and His Purpose?
His POWER (not a 'Ghost-God') that guides, empowers, encourages, and instructs is the
"Power of the Most High".
1 Cor 2:10- But unto us God revealed them through the Spirit:
for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11- For who among men knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of the man, which is in him? even so the things of God none knoweth, save the spirit of God.
12- But we received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is from God; that we might know the things that were freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the spirit teacheth; combining spiritual things with spiritual words.
14- Now the natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him; and he cannot know them, because they are spiritually judged.
15- But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, and he himself is judged of no man.
16- For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he should instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
Note; there is OUR spirit, God's spirit, and the WORLD'S spirit; the Bible isn't talking about Ghosts!
In Romans 8, Paul said God's Spirit bears witness to OUR spirit.
Ghosts, spirit creatures weren't being discussed!
God's POWER relaying instructions, and encouraging, helping sense things WAS.
The Mind of Christ is conveyed thru it!
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1 Cor 3:21- So then, no more boasting about human leaders! All things are yours,
22- whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or the present
or the future - all are yours,
23- and you are of Christ, and Christ is of God.
Christ is THEIR Leader, God is Christ's . (No Triune Psychobabble EVER found)
1 Cor 6:9- Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers
nor male prostitutes nor practising homosexuals
10- nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will
inherit the kingdom of God.
11- And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified,
you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the spirit of our God.
No Ghost-God came down to justify them!
Thru the Holy Spirit- the POWER of God- they WERE.
1 Cor 6:14- By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also.
Similar phrases refer God raising him by Holy Spirit. POWER!
Of course, Churchianity teaching Jesus is 1/3 God, teaches he NEVER died, was NEVER resurrected...
...it was just the Body, the corpse! So many beautiful scriptures are thus perverted by them!
1 Cor 8:5- For even if there are so-called Gods, whether in heaven
or on earth (as indeed there are many "Gods" and many "lords"),
6- yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things
came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ,
through whom all things came and through whom we live.
Not to CHURCHianity!
1 Cor 10: 2- They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.
3- They all ate the same spiritual food
4- and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual
rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.
This shows that Christ was representing Jehovah as the Word in Israel's Day!
No one saw Jehovah Himself. Only what He manifested through His son (who wasn't named "Jesus" yet)
Is any man or woman the head of God?
Of COURSE not!
Neither is Jesus!
1 Cor 11:3- But I want you to realize that the head of every
man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and
the head of Christ is God.
No equality, no 'Co-Equality'.
No Triune anything.
No Ghost-God.
No Godman.
GOD is the head of Jesus,
Just as Jesus is the head of man.
1 Cor 12:6- There are different kinds of working, but in all of
them and in everyone it is the same God at work.
11- All these are the work of one and the same spirit, and He
distributes them to each one, just as he determines.
12- Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its
many parts form one body, so it is with Christ.
13- For we were all baptized by one spirit so as to form
one body whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free and we were all given the one
spirit to drink.
14- Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.
God is shown to be the One WORKING thru the Gifts of the
spirit he used in the beginning stages of Christianity, and Paul
speaks of DRINKING it!
Does that sound like the workings of a 1/3 God- a Nameless Ghost-God...
Paul drinking a Holy Ghost-God...or
that God was directing things thru His Power?
1 Cor 15:22- For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all
will be made alive.
23- But in this order: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when
he comes, those who belong to him.
24- Then the end will come, when he hands over the
kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all
dominion, authority and power.
25- For he must reign until he has put all his enemies
under his feet.
26- The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
27- For He "has put everything under his feet." Now
when it says that "everything" has been put under him,
it is clear that this does not include
God himself, who put everything under Christ.
28- When he has done this, then the Son himself will
be made subject to Him who put everything under him,
so that God may be all in all.
Thus the Lie of the Trinity Dogma is settled- on this
reference ALONE- altho it is FAR from alone!
No equality! No 'God-the-Son'. No Ghost-God!
Just the Only TRUE God- and the one He GAVE His Power
& Authority to (thus "was" God, as Moses once was) His Son,
now named Jesus! )
2 Cor 1:3- Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort!
And yet AGAIN states Jesus as having a Being Superior to him: God.
(God= Supreme Being)
No Triune Nonsense!
2 Cor 1:20- For no matter how many promises God has made, they
are "Yes" in Christ. And so through him the "Amen" is spoken by
us to the glory of God.
No Trinity nonsense.
God. Christ.
Not God and God-the-Son. No such thing as a 'Holy Ghost', either.
There's God, His breath/wind/"spirit"- and there's also Christ.
2 Cor 1:21- Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in
Christ. He anointed us,
22- set his seal of ownership on us, and put his spirit in our
hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
Hard to think of God- or 1/3 God- as a "deposit"... easy to think
of the Power of God as such!
Even when the Spirit is referred to in an illustrative sense,
it is clear that it is an "it"- a POWER rather than a Person:
2 cor 3:3- You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result
of our ministry, written not with ink but with the spirit of the
living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human
hearts.
2- You yourselves are our letter, written on our hearts,
known and read by everyone.
3- You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry,
written not with ink but with the spirit of the living God, not on tablets
of stone but on tablets of human hearts.
4 -Such confidence we have through Christ before God.
5- Not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything for
ourselves, but our competence comes from God.
6- He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant�
not of the letter but of the spirit; for the letter kills, but
the spirit gives life.
Again God spoken of separately from Christ, the spirit as
a force, or influence of God's power.
No TriniBabble.
2 Cor 3:15- Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.
16- But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
17- Now the Lord is the spirit, and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
18- And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his image with
ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the spirit.
The Trinity creates Lord-aphobia; seeing Christ everywhere "LORD" is referred to.
(since the ancient Koine Greek had no version of "Jehovah", yet- "Lord" was used- often blurring the Lord Jesus and the Lord Jehovah)
The Lord here, is Jesus' God- Jehovah.
He is identified as BEING the spirit, the One carrying out Holy works.
As His son said "God IS spirit", and that we must WORSHIP with spirit & Truth. No with a Ghost or 1/3 God and Truth.
The literal meaning of the Greek word "pnema' translated as "spirit" makes it easy to understand: Wind, Breath- an Invisible Force!
Worshipping with "spirit" means worshipping with heartfelt ENTHUSIASM, and ZEAL!
2 Cor 4:4- The God of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers,
so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays
the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
5- For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord,
and ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake.
6- For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," made
his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge
of God's glory displayed in the face of Christ.
This explains how Trinitarians have been thus blinded, not seeing the glory of Christ,
nor God's- but seeing them both as the same, when Jesus, God- and
the ENTIRE Bible show otherwise!
2 Cor 5:5- Now the One who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God,
who has given us the spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
Hard for me to think of 1/3 GOD as a deposit- but not for unthinking Trinitarians ...
2 Cor 5:17- Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come:
The old has gone, the new is here!
18- All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and
gave us the ministry of reconciliation:
19- that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting
people's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message
of reconciliation.
20- We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making
his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ's behalf:
Be reconciled to God.
21- God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might
become the righteousness of God.
This is completely MEANINGLESS reading it with the Trinity Dogma!
Mediators are separate from the 2 parties- but, as with most words,
Churchese perverts the meaning!
God does not directly reconcile with mankind- but uses a Mediator.
A High Priest; His very own Son!
2 Cor 11:4- For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or
if you receive a different spirit from the spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted,
you put up with it easily enough.
We see the results of that; after the Apostles died off they CONTINUED to "put up with it" as an ENTIRELY different Jesus
was taught; a Godman Jesus- 'Co-Equal to 2 OTHER 'God-Persons', who only PRETENDED to die... the beginning
of Churchianity- when Rome created it's "Universal" ("Catholic") Church- continued to do so...
2 Cor 11:30- If I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness.
31 -The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is to be praised forever, knows that I am not lying.
Once again, the Supreme Being (God) does not have someone Supreme OVER Him!
Jesus does.
2 Cor 13:3- since you are demanding proof that Christ is speaking through me. He is not weak in dealing with you, but is powerful
among you.
4- For to be sure, he was impaled in weakness, yet he lives by God's power. Likewise, we are weak in him, yet by God's power
we will live with him in our dealing with you.
Christ is PROVEN not to be God, here, too: he doesn't live
by his own Power- but the Power (holy spirit) radiating FROM God!
Here's one that, without having read the Bible, would LOOK like
the Trinity is being referred to:
2 Cor 13: 14- May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the holy spirit be with you all.
Just what is the " fellowship of the holy spirit"?
Going places and hanging out with a Ghost-God?
A people linked by the influence of God's Power (spirit); the holy spirit gathers Christians together, teaching and encouraging
us- directing us to preach the Good News of the Kingdom, as Christ SAID would be done in the Last Days.
We are a Fellowship closer than most families! (JWs)
Gal 1:1- Paul, an apostle sent not with a human commission nor by human authority, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who
raised him from the dead!
God is, as always, referred to as a being separate from Christ.
No reference to the fabricated "God-the-Father" , "God-the-Son" nor "God-the-Ghost".
And He- not Jesus himself- is always referred to as the One who resurrected Christ!
Gal 1:3- Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ,
4- who gave himself for our sins to rescue us from the present evil age, according
to the will of our God and Father,
5- to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
(Flashback:)
Cor 8:5- For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven
or on earth (as indeed there are many "gods" and many "lords"),
6- yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things
came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ,
through whom all things came and through whom we live.
Trinitarians have no answer how the Supreme Being can BE supreme, if
He serves and is commanded by ANOTHER Supreme Being!
The Catholic-inspired Dogma is so full of holes that it is difficult
to FIND them all! A Religious Swiss Cheese!
Gal 1:15- But when God, who set me apart from birth and called me
by his grace, was pleased
16- to reveal his son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles,
my immediate response was not to consult any human being.
Did Paul mean:
1- That God revealed 1/3 of Themselves hiding in Paul's body, or
2- that God revealed Jesus in Paul's heart?
Gal 4:6- And because ye are sons, God sent forth the spirit of his son
into our hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
(Remember Rom 8:15-For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again
to fear; but ye have received the spirit of adoption, whereby we cry,
Abba, Father.16-The spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God.)
The spirit of God, the spirit of bondage, the spirit of adoption, and the spirit of Christ are not Ghosts/Spirit Beings-
but attitudes, and forces that influence people.
Gal 4:28- Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise.
29- At that time the son born by human effort persecuted the son born by
the power of the spirit. It is the same now.
Once again, as in so many cases, the holy spirit is referred to as "POWER".
Gal 6:18- The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit, brothers
and sisters. Amen.
"Your spirit", "God's spirit"- no Ghosts/Spirit Beings anywhere.
The power of mind & heart are being referred to!
Eph 1: 3- Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who
has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.
Yet AGAIN Christ is referred to as HAVING a God- not BEING God.
Eph 1:9- He made known to us the mystery of His will according to His good
pleasure, which He purposed in Christ,
10- to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfilment, to bring
unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ.
"When the times reach rtheir fulfillment" - the Appointed Time!
Jesus said of the end times "if those days were NOT cut short- NO flesh would be saved!
Heaven & Earth UNITED! The "New Heaven and Earth" pictured in Revelation 21!
No 'Triune Godhead' EVER seen, nor mentioned in God's Word!
Eph 1:13-In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth,
the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye
were sealed with that holy spirit of promise,
14-Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the
purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
"That holy spirit"...OF PROMISE!
No 1/3 Ghost-God, just the connection between the Power of
God (holy spirit) which backed God's Promise, and those with faith!
Eph 1:17- I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ,
the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so
that you may know Him better.
Jesus' God. Not God Jesus. No Ghost-God.
God's spirit being referred to as the wisdom & revelation He conveys thru
His POWER, His "spirit".
Eph 1:18- 18- I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you
may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious
inheritance in his people,
19- and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is
the same as the mighty strength
20- he exerted when He raised Christ from the dead and seated him at
his right hand in the heavenly realms,
21- far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that can be invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come.
Remember the exception to "every"- 1 Cor 15:27
Trying to cram the Trinity into this is so absurd on SO many levels!~
-God, or 1/3 God would have to DIE, meaning he ISN'T Eternal, and has no 'IMMORTAL soul'- while MEN do!
-A resurrected Almighty God would not NEED to be 'seated'; he would RETURN to His throne!
- It is GOD - not a 'God-the-WHATEVER'- that GIVES this honor and position to Christ- as ALL the scriptures
CONTINUALLY tell us, which are continually IGNORED by Churchianity!
Eph1:22- 22- And God >>> placed<<< all things under his feet and >>> appointed <<< him to be head over everything for the congregation,
23- which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.
Remember how the 'fullness of the Godhead dwells in him bodily' that they claim means the '3 God-Persons' were possessing that body?
Here the word "fills" is used, the congregations ('church') being his body.
God never has "indwelled" or "filled" any human body literally- but does so with His Breath (Spirit)!
No 'Co-Equal' 'Triune God' is here or ANYWHERE in the Bible; hrere we see Jesus placed and appointed by.....GOD!
Eph 2:4- But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy,
5- made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions-
it is by grace you have been saved.
God and Christ- ALWAYS spoke of separately. ALWAYS!
"Grace" is how the Greek word (charis) meaning " a gift or blessing, favor, gratitude, thanks, a favor, kindness.
By [kindness, a blessing, a favor, or grace] you have been saved.
Eph 2:19 -Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow
citizens with God's people and also members of his household,
20- built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus
himself as the chief cornerstone.
21- In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy
temple in the Lord.
22- And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which
God lives by his spirit.
God lives in us thru the POWER of holy spirit- in our hearts.
Eph 3:4 -In reading this, then, you will be able to understand my insight into the mystery of Christ,
5- which was not made known to people in other generations as it has now been revealed by the spirit to God's holy apostles and prophets.
As usual, we see the Holy Spirit referred to in the sense of a force, a power- rather than a Ghost/Spirit Being-God that appears and literally instructs.
Eph 3:7- I became a servant of this gospel by the gift of God's grace
given me through the working of his power.
Holy Spirit=the Power of God!
Eph 3:14- For this reason I kneel before the Father,
15- from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name.
16- I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power
through his spirit in your inner being,
17- so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that
you, being rooted and established in love,
18- may have power, together with all the Lord's people, to grasp how
wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ,
19- and to know this love that surpasses knowledge�that you may be
filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.
Again-God is referred to as the Ultimate Authority (God)- not Jesus or a Ghost/Spirit Being.
Eph 3:20- Now to Him who is able to do immeasurably more than all
we ask or imagine, according to His >>> power <<< that is at work within us,
21- to Him be glory in the church >>> and <<< in Christ Jesus throughout all
generations, for ever and ever! Amen.
Filled with Spirit= Filled with POWER!!
Eph 4:3- Make every effort to keep the unity of the spirit through the bond of peace.
4- There is one body and one spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called;
5- one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
6 -one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
ONE Lord. Jesus. One spirit (breath, wind).
AND... Only ONE God. Jehovah. Over .... ALL- including Jesus!
No Triune ANYTHING!
Eph 5:1- Follow God's example, therefore, as dearly loved children
2- and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself
up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
Trinitarinans look at it as: " God loved us and gave one of Themselves
up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to Himself"... YECCH!
Eph 5:18- Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the spirit.
Filled...with a Ghost-God????
Of COURSE not.
Filled with power from God- which refreshes FAR more than any wine!
Eph 6:18- And pray in the spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests.
Such constant references to God's spirit are meaningless when
wearing Trinity Goggles; a 'Ghost-God' just doesn't fit!
(Or do we have to climb inside a Ghost-God to pray?)
Pray with God's Will in mind- not for money and selfish desire!
Phil 1:19- for I know that through your prayers and God's provision of the spirit of Jesus Christ what has happened to me will turn
out for my deliverance.
The spirit of Jesus? Is there ANOTHER Ghost-God? Or is it the guidance of Christ?
Phil 2:6- who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped.
The form of God. (NOT "being" God)
If he were God- he would have ALREADY been equal!
God is Spirit, Christ is Spirit, Angels are Spirit.- Teir form is SPIRIT, not Flesh!
Man isn't.
Point being, that even though being a Spirit in Heaven, he didn't even think of seizing equality as Satan did!
Instead he humbled himself to carry out the will of God.
Phil 2:9 -Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,
10- that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11- and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
And 1 Cor 15 states that there is ONE EXCEPTION!
A second God wasn't RETURNED to Godhood!
Christ was GIVEN his NEW position BY God!
Phil 3:20- But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,
21- who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that
they will be like his glorious body.
What POWER enables Christ? If you don't know that by NOW- you need to go back to the START of this list,
to Genesis, and read it all AGAIN!
Col 1:9- For this reason, since the day we heard about you,
we have not stopped praying for you. We continually ask
God to fill you with the knowledge of his will through all
the wisdom and understanding that the spirit gives,
10- so that you may live a life worthy of the Lord and please
him in every way: bearing fruit in every good work, growing in
the knowledge of God,
11- being strengthened with all power according to his glorious
might so that you may have great endurance and patience!
And, yet again, God's Holy Spirit being referred to as POWER!
O where, O where can the Ghost-God be?
Col 1:12- giving thanks unto the Father, who made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light;
13- who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the kingdom of the son of his love;
14- in whom we have our redemption, the forgiveness of our sins:
15- who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;
16- for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or
dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto him;
17- and he is before all things, and in him all things consist. -ASV
An Image of Whistler's Mother IS NOT THE REAL PAINTING!
An image looks just like the real thing!
The contrast between Christ & God is further shown when Christ is COMPARED with God here: he is the IMAGE
(reflection) of God, and the Firstborn (First one BORN) of all CREATION- he is a PART of the Creation.
Notice how EVERYWHERE in the Bible God and Christ are spoken of as different entities!
Notice, too, that it doesn't say Christ created all things, but says "IN" or 'THROUGH" Christ all things were created; this shows
that God created all things THRU His son!
So yes, it can be said that Christ made all things (by his God's power), but ultimately it is Jehovah Himself who did it.
Col 2:9 -for in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.-ASV
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.- KJV
All the fullness of deity lives in Christ's body.- CEB
For in him, bodily, lives the fullness of all that God is. - CJV
All of God lives in Christ's body- GWT
For the entire fullness of God�s nature dwells bodily in Christ- HCSB
Yet it is in him that God gives a full and complete expression of himself - JBNT
God's whole nature is living in Christ in human form. - NIV
God lives fully in Christ. - CEV
It is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily. NWT
The NEXT verses tell us that true CHRISTIANS are ALSO brought
to this fullness! God dwells 'in' us, and works thru us!-
2:10- and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head
over every power and authority.
13- When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of
your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave
us all our sins.
How wonderful to be able to UNDERSTAND God's Word!
"Godhead" is archaic for "divie"- not that God has a head!
A Triune God did not become a baby, grwing into a Godman!
All the wonderful qualities of Jehovah were the same qualities His son had!
Col 3:1- If then ye were raised together with Christ, seek the things
that are above, where Christ is, seated on the right hand of God.
You have to put the Trinity Goggles on to see:
"God-the-Son" is seated at the right hand of "God-the-Father" , and to the left of "God-the-Ghost"!
The "Right Hand of"- has always been a term denoting the second in command!
God is the One (not 3) that he sits NEXT to.
Col 3:17- And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.
As ALWAYS the crystal clear distinction is made between the person (not persons) of God and His son.
And the word "through" says it ALL!
1 Thess 1:4- For we know, brothers and sisters loved by God, that He has chosen you, 5- because our gospel came to you
not simply with words but also with power, with the holy spirit and deep conviction.
What does Paul say the Holy Spirit is, here?
1 Thess 1:9- for they themselves report what happened when we visited you. They tell how you turned to God from idols
to serve the living and true God,
10- and to wait for his son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead- Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.
No Ghost-God, no Trinity.
There is God. There is Christ.
And, contrary to their spin of John 2, GOD resurrected him, not he himself!
1 Thess 3:11- Now may our God and Father Himself and our Lord Jesus clear the way for us to come to you.
No Ghost-God, no Trinity.
There is God. There is Christ.
CONSTANTLY shown.
1 Thess 4:8- Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who
gives you his holy spirit.
The Trinitarians, with their goggles on read this:
" the very God who gives you God-the- Ghost."
God does NOT give One of Themselves!
The dogma of this Triune Travesty insults God & Christ.
The holy spirit is simply the holy POWER of God
1 Thess 4:14- We believe that Jesus died and rose again, and
so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who
have fallen asleep in him.
Notice the word WITH? And DIED?
Jesus was not, contrary to Churchianity, ALIVE those 3 days!
He was DEAD, until resurrected by his God and Father!
God cannot die- as ALL know!
No Ghost-God, no Trinity.
There is God. There is Christ.
CONSTANTLY shown.
1 Thess 5:9- For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Notice the word THROUGH?
Not by God but THROUGH His son.
No Ghost-God, no Trinity.
There is God. There is Christ.
2 Thes 1:1- Paul, Silas and Timothy, To the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:
2- Grace and peace to you from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Notice the word AND?
No Ghost-God, no Trinity.
There is God. There is Christ.
2 Thess 2:16- May our Lord Jesus Christ himself and God our Father, who loved us and by his grace gave us eternal encouragement and good hope,
17- encourage your hearts and strengthen you in every good deed and word.
Notice the word AND?
No Ghost-God, no Trinity.
There is God. There is Christ. And there is his God and Father- Jehovah.
Always, the distinction is made!
1 Tim 1:1- Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the command of God our Savior and of Christ Jesus our hope,
2- To Timothy my true son in the faith: Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
As always, the two are contrasted.
Here God, too, is referred to as our Savior; for He is the one who GAVE us His son (Isa 9) as savior.
1 Tim 1:17- Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Notice the word ONLY....AGAIN?
Jesus, saying the same thing- said it was his Father- God.
Yes, Trinitarians, Jesus, Moses, and Angels were CALLED God...because God was SPEAKING thru them.
They weren't LITERALLY God; there is only ONE!
No Ghost-God, no Trinity. There is God. There is Christ.
And "the Power of the Most High"= the Holy Spirit!
1 Tim 2:3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior,
(Salvation is due to them BOTH, as proclaimed at:
Rev 7:10-In loud voice they cried, saying, salvation is due to our God,
Who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb ! )
4- who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
5- For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,
6- who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
Notice the words ONE, and MEDIATOR BETWEEN?
No Ghost-God, no Trinity.
There is only One TRUE God. And there is Christ.
1 Tim 5:21- I charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and
the elect angels, to keep these instructions without partiality,
and to do nothing out of favoritism.
Always, the distinction is made!
WHERE IS the 'Holy Trinity' of Churchianity?
Do God forge to mention it?
Such Blind Hypocrisy!
1 Tim 6:1-Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God
and his doctrine be not blasphemed.
This is showing that, even tho God's Name was replaced with "LORD" shortly after the apostles died, they ALL KNEW and
HONORED the Name of God... and it's not "LORD"!
Notice His Name is SEPARATED from His Teachings?
His name isn't being referred to as to what is known or taught about Him- IT'S HIS LITERAL NAME!
1 Tim 6:13- I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things,and before Christ Jesus who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate,
14- that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ's appearing,
15- which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
16- who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.
God, too, is King of Kings- and now His son is, too. (Rev 7:10)
Yet Jesus isn't King over GOD- the one who MADE him King.
God, Christ, and those God resurrects to Heaven are all KINGS!
Only One is the SUPREME King- Jehovah- to whom Jesus is subject to!
Because of the Trinity Dogma most read this as being about JESUS- when it is about GOD, who has His son ruling in His place.
GOD HIMSELF is referred to as never having been seen by man- as Jesus was... Jesus isn't God, since so many SAW HIM.
God is the POTENTATE (SOVERIGN Ruler) whose Authority is ABSOLUTE (Remember- the ONLY True God?)- even over Christ, the King of Kings! (1 Cor 15: 24-29 )
2 Tim 1:7- For the spirit [ "breath, wind"] God gave us does not make us timid, but gives us power, love and self-discipline.
8- So do not be ashamed of the testimony about our Lord, or of me his prisoner. But join with me in suffering for the gospel, by the POWER of God,
9- who has saved us and called us to a holy life- not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace.
Notice how the Holy Spirit is not referred to as a person, much less as "God"?
And, as usual, it is referred to as "The POWER of God"!
No Ghost-God EVER!
2 Tim 4:1- In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge:
2 -Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage�with great patience and careful instruction.
3- For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4- They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
5 But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.
Notice how, as usual, God and Christ are referred to as 2 different persons?
No Ghost-God is EVER mentioned- as WOULD be if the absurd Trinity Dogma was being referred to!
Just as Christ & the apostles warned of the deceivers coming, it started back then, growing in momentum-
resulting in the utter confusion, dis-unity, and passionate ignorance of CHURCHianity as it is today!
Titus 1: 1- Paul, a servant of God >>> AND <<< an apostle of Jesus Christ to further the faith of...
Again, no reference to a Ghost-God, and Jesus being referred to separately.
"O where, O where can the 'Trinity' be- O where O where can it be?"
Often,the Clergy whip a scripture out of context to perform
their magic trick, as with this-
Titus 2:10-Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in all things.
(They never include the REST)
11-For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12-Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13-Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God >>> AND <<< our Savior Jesus Christ ,14-Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
They say; Jesus is called the Great God! He isn't!
How pathetic, With all the scriptures we have just covered, no thinking person will see THAT (the two are set apart)- and then we have the context:
"AND our savior., Jesus Christ.."
Jehovah saved us by providing His son as Savior- so they are BOTH our Saviors, as noted in Rev 7:9- After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no man could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10- and crying out with a loud voice,
�Salvation belongs to our God who sits upon the throne, ... >>> AND <<< to the Lamb!�
Jesus is referred to as "the Grace of God". (vs11)
As shown from previous scripture God and Christ are both given credit for our salvation; God for SENDING His Son- and, of course, Jesus, His son, who carried out his Father's will!
Titus 3:4- But when the kindness of God our Saviour, and his love
toward man, appeared,
5- not by works done in righteousness, which we did ourselves, but
according to his mercy he saved us, through the washing of regeneration
and renewing of the holy spirit,
6- which he poured out upon us richly, through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
7- that, being justified by his grace, we might be made heirs according
to the hope of eternal life.
Here we see the Holy Spirit is POURED OUT.
That is not a description of a Person, a Ghost-God!
The Holy Spirit; the awesome "Power of the Highest" (Gabriel)!
The NEXT verses in the first chapter of Hebrews are always
quoted out of their CONTEXT, which is what is needed to
UNDERSTAND them!
Is Jesus the Almighty?
Why is he to be worshipped (given the highest honor)?
Was he EVER a Messenger (Angel) of God?
Let's see:
Heb 1:1- In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets
at many times and in various ways,
2- but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he
appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.
3- The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of
his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided
purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
4- So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has
inherited is superior to theirs.
Now, has CHURCHanese also given a new definition to the
word "BECAME"?
Notice how Jesus isn't somehow 'returned' to 'Godhood'?
Notice how he is spoken of a an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PERSON than
that of God?
Heb 1:5- For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son,
This day have I begotten thee? and again, I will be to him a Father, And
he shall be to me a Son?
(This question is ANSWERED in the next verses)
6- And when He again bringeth in the firstborn into the world He saith, And
let all the angels of God worship (or show the Highest Honor to) him.
7- And of the angels He saith, Who maketh his angels winds, And his
ministers a flame a fire:
8- but of the Son He saith, Thy throne, O God, (Or "God is thy Throne")
is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of
thy kingdom.
9 -Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, thy
God, hath anointed thee With the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Does the Almighty HAVE a God? Of COURSE not!
Otherwise He wouldn't BE "ALMIGHTY".
Jehovah is the God of Jesus Christ!
And notice how the angels are referred to as Christ's
"fellows", or equals...until this position is GIVEN to Jesus?
Hebrews 2:9 -But we behold him who hath been made a little lower
than the angels, even Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned
with glory and honor, that by the grace of God he should taste of
death for every man.
Notice that God is NEVER referred to as the one coming in the flesh
and dying- it is ALWAYS His own Son...
GOD NEVER became lower than the angels, never died- His SON did!
Heb 3:1-Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling, fix
your thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and high priest whom we confess.
2-He was faithful to the One who appointed him, just as Moses was faithful
in all God's house.
NO ONE can appoint God to ANYTHING!
Jesus is a PRIEST and APOSTLE ("sent forth one") of God! Not 'God-the-Priest' or 'God-the-Apostle'!
Heb 4:12-For the word of God is living and active.
Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates
even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow;
it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
(Notice how the scripture, like the Holy Spirit, are referred
to as doing things like a living person?)
13-Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight.
Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the
eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
14-Therefore, since we have a great high priest who
has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God,
let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.
15-For we do not have a high priest who is unable to
sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have
one who has been tempted in every way, just as
we are�yet was without sin.
16-Let us then approach the throne of grace with
confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find
grace to help us in our time of need.
Jesus. the High Priest between God and Man.
NOT God, but His SON.
Heb 5:1-Every high priest is selected from among men and
is appointed to represent them in matters related to God,
to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins.
2-He is able to deal gently with those who are ignorant and
are going astray, since he himself is subject to weakness.
3-This is why he has to offer sacrifices for his own sins, as
well as for the sins of the people.
4-No one takes this honor upon himself; he must be called
by God, just as Aaron was.
5-So Christ also did not take upon himself the glory of
becoming a high priest. But God said to him, "You are
my son; today I have become your Father.
6-And he says in another place, "You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek.
Again, Jesus proven true- his Father IS the only true God.
Only God, appointing an Eternal Priest- His Son.
Hebrews 7:23-Now there have been many of those priests,
since death prevented them from continuing in office;
24-but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent
priesthood.
25-Therefore he is able to save completely those who come
to God through him, because he always lives to intercede
for them.
Trinitarians can't see the word "through"- because they have
their Trinity Goggles on...and God isn't a Priest!
Heb 8:1-The point of what we are saying is this: We do have
such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the
throne of the Majesty in heaven,
2-and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set
up by the Lord, not by man.
Heb 9:14- How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who
through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God,
cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so
that we may serve the living God!
Once again, we have God spoken of as a seperate Person
from Christ. No 'God-the-Son', no 'God-the-Ghost'.
No 'Ghost' is "the Majesty". Jesus isn't; he sits NEXT to Him!
Just the True God, His Son Christ, and the eternal spirit-
"the Power of the Most High".
Heb 9:24- For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with
human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he
entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God's presence.
" In God's presence". Meaningless phrase if Jesus was the
One True God- as all his words would be.
We know better!
Heb 10:12- But when THIS priest had offered for all time
one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,
13- and since that time he waits for his enemies to
be made his footstool.
No Triune ANYTHING! ANYWHERE!
Just the "ONLY TRUE God" placing His son at his Right Hand, waiting
for his Father to tell him the Appointed Time!
Heb 12:1- Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud
of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin
that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race
marked out for us,
2- fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. For the
joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and
sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
The Joy was the joy of making his God & Father happy, and
saving mankind from his own fate!
Contrary to Trinity Garble, Jesus did not return to Heaven as the
Supreme, Almighty God, and sit on the Throne....LOOK at
what is SAID- if you want Truth!
Heb 12:18- You have not come to a mountain that can be touched
and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm;
19- to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those
who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them,
20- because they could not bear what was commanded: "If even an
animal touches the mountain, it must be stoned to death."
21- The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, "I am trembling with fear."
22- But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon
thousands of angels in joyful assembly,
23- to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven.
You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the
righteous made perfect,
24- to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled
blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
Where is the Trinity? Will it EVER show up???? Heh.
Seen here are Heavely Jerusalem, angels, God....and Jesus.
No 'God-the-Son', no 'God-the-Ghost'.
Heb 13:20- Now may the God of peace, who through the blood of
the eternal covenant brought back from the dead our Lord Jesus,
that great Shepherd of the sheep,
21- equip you with everything good for doing His will, and may He
work in us what is pleasing to Him, through Jesus Christ, to
whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
There is God, and mankind communicates with Him thru, not
ANOTHER God, but thru Jesus! And ntice it CLEARLY states that Jesus did
NOT resurrect himself- bur his God and Father did!
James 1:1- James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ,
To the twelve tribes scattered among the nations: Greetings!
James, one of Christs brothers (of Mary & Joseph) opens his letter
stating his devotion to the Only True God- AND His Son.
No 'God-the-Son', no 'God-the-Ghost'.
James 2:19- You believe that there is one God. Good!
Even the demons believe that, and shudder.
Hah! - Even the demons know, but not churchoids!
They've been conned into believing 'THEY' are a 'Three-in-One' God- like the motor oil!
EVERY worshipper of the True God knew God as
simply ONE Person- NEVER Three!
Not ONE SINGLE reference to a Trinity, a Triune
ANYTHING!
Never is the term 'God-the-Son' used!
Never is a 'Holy Ghost' worshipped!
James 4:8-Come near to God and HE will come near to you.
Now, I must remind all, it NEVER says "THEY" will come
near you.... And if the 'Triune Godhead' of CHURCHianity
were True...it always WOULD!
1 Pet 1:18- For you know that it was not with perishable
things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed
from the empty way of life handed down to you from
your ancestors,
19- but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without
blemish or defect. 20- He was chosen before the creation
of the world, but was revealed in these last times for
your sake.
21- Through him you believe in God, who raised him from
the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope
are in God.
Again,he is shown NOT to literally be God, and didn't resurrect himself- GOD did!
Do you REALLY believe that?
1 Pet 2:4- As you come to him, the living Stone rejected
by human beings but chosen by God and precious to him
5- you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual
house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices
acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
Again the word "THROUGH" God, and chosen "BY" God!
Christ and God- not God and God.
1 Pet 3:18- For Christ also suffered once for sins,
the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God.
To bring us to WHO?
They say Jesus IS God!
1 Peter 3:21- and this water symbolizes baptism that now
saves you also not the removal of dirt from the body but
the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by
the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
22- who has gone into heaven and is at God's right hand
with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.
There is God- and there is Jesus, on the Right Hand.
No Ghost on the 'Left Hand'!
And churchianity doesn't even believe Jesus DIED- as he SAID he would-
-thus don't believe he was ev er resurrected!
2 Peter 1:2- Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the knowledge of God >>> and <<< of Jesus our Lord.
As ALWAYS, God is spoken of separately from Jesus- and no 'Ghost' is referred to.
2 Pet 1:17- For He received from God the Father honor and
glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent
Glory: �This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.�
18- And we heard this voice which came from heaven when
we were with Him on the holy mountain.
With the trinity Goggles on, it reads:
"God received from God honor and glory when God spoke
to Himself when...."
HooHah! Comedy Central be jealous!
1 John 4:12- No man hath beheld God at any time: if we
love one another, God abideth in us, and his love is
perfected in us.
Man saw Christ.
No man has seen God.
Connect the dots!
1 John 5:20- We know also that the Son of God has come
and has given us understanding, so that we may know him
who is true. And we are in him who is true by being in his
Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
With the trinity Goggles on,all this blends and blurs together:
"God has come, and has given us this understanding, that we may
know God. And we are IN God, by being IN God. God is the True God
and eternal life!"...
Notice, that Jesus came to help us KNOW his God and Father.
Same thing today- except that the Spirit has empowered us
to do it, as Jesus had prophesied! (Matt 24:14)
3 John 11- Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what
is good. Anyone who does what is good is from God.
Anyone who does what is evil has not seen God.
He we clearly 'see' that Christians "see" God, not with the
eyes, but with the heart and spirit.
"NO man ha EVER seen God" , as repeated by Christ and John,
is referring to His REAL form- likely inconceivable POWER,
far more so that an atomic explosion which would burn the
retinas to a crisp!
The Book of Revelation opens up with words that IMMEDIATELY
destroy the Trinity Fable:
Rev 1:1- The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him
to show unto his servants, even the things which must shortly
come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto
his servant John...
WHO gave it to Jesus? God-the Ghost, or the
Nameless 'God-the-Father' of Church Spin?
No GOD did! Not another God, not a part of Jesus- but
" the Only TRUE God " as Jesus himself referred to him!
Rev 1:4- John to the seven churches that are in Asia:
Grace to you and peace, from him who is and who
was and who is to come; and from the seven Spirits
that are before his throne;
5-and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,
the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings
of the earth. Unto him that loveth us, and loosed us
from our sins by his blood;
6- and he made us to be a kingdom, to be priests unto
his God and Father; to him be the glory and the
dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Regardless of how the antichrists refuse to answer the
question "Does Jesus HAVE a God", Jesus HIMSELF
answered it MANY times, such as in Revelation!
[John]
7- Behold, he cometh with clouds; and
every eye shall see him, and they also
which pierced him: and all kindreds
of the earth shall wail because of him.
Even so, Amen.
[God]
8- I am Alpha and Omega, the
beginning and the ending, saith the
Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
[John]
9- I John, who also am your brother,
and companion in tribulation,
and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is
called Patmos, for the word of God,
and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
[John]
10- I was in the Spirit on the Lord's
day, and heard behind me a
great voice, as of a trumpet,
[God]
11- Saying, I am Alpha and Omega,
the first and the last: and, What
thou seest, write in a book, and
send it unto the seven churches
which are in Asia; unto Ephesus,
and unto Smyrna, and unto
Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and
unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia,
and unto Laodicea.
[John]
12-And I turned to see the voice that
spake with me. And being turned,
I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13- And in the midst of the seven
candlesticks one like unto the Son
of man, clothed with a garment
down to the foot, and girt about the
paps with a golden girdle.
[Christ]
14-His head and his hairs were white
like wool, as white as snow;
and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15-And his feet like unto fine brass,
as if they burned in a furnace;
and his voice as the sound of
many waters.
[God's voice was like a great Trumpet- Christ's as many waters]
[John]
16-And he had in his right hand
seven stars: and out of his mouth
went a sharp twoedged sword: and
his countenance was as the sun
shineth in his strength.
17- And when I saw him, I fell at his feet
as dead. And he laid his right hand
upon me, saying unto me,
Fear not; I am the first and the last:
[Similar, but different from the
"Alpha and Omega"]
[Jesus]
18- I am he that liveth, and was dead;
and, behold, I am alive for evermore,
Amen; and have the keys
of hell and of death.
Notice Rev 1:10? - I was in the Spirit
on the Lord's day...
Was John inside the 'Ghost-God', or
was he under the
influence of the Holy Power from God?
(TOUGH one!) Heh!
Rev 2:26- And he that overcometh, and he that keepeth
my works unto the end, to him will I give authority
over the nations:
27- and he shall rule them with a rod of iron, as the
vessels of the potter are broken to shivers; as I also
have received of my Father...
Here Jesus re-affirms the prophecy of Daniel 2:44, as
well as, again, that this authority was GIVEN Him.
No one can give God authority! He always has- and always
WILL have the ULTIMATE authority!!!
Rev 3:12- He that overcometh, I will make him a pillar
in the temple of
my God,
and he shall go out thence no more: and I will write
upon him the name of
my God,
and the name of the city of
my God,
the new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven
from
my God,
and mine own new name.
Here, FOUR TIMES IN A ROW Jesus says he has a God!
Can it be any PLAINER?
Rev 3:14- And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write:
These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness,
the beginning of the creation of God...
The BEGINNING of CREATION (or "creature" -created thing-
in the KJV).
Clergy try to say this is just a Title of Authority.
They HAVE no "Ear" that "Hears" what the Spirit says!
Even if "Beginning" WAS a title (it's NOT) it still shows
that Christ is a PART of Creation!
Thus they have to warp the meaning of EVERY term
God uses to describes His "Son", his "Only-Begotten".
Thus the complete dumming-down of churchoids who
trust THEM, instead of Christ!
The Spirirt enables the sincere to see thru the illusion!
Rev 4:9- And when the living creatures shall give glory and
honor and thanks to him that sitteth on the throne, to
him that liveth for ever and ever,
10- the four and twenty elders shall fall down before him
that sitteth on the throne, and shall worship him that liveth
for ever and ever, and shall cast their crowns before the
throne, saying,
11- Worthy art thou, our Lord and our God, to receive the
glory and the honor and the power: for thou didst create
all things, and because of thy will they were, and were created.
With the Trinity Goggles on, it reads:
"to THEM that sit on the Thrones"
"to Them that live for ever"
"Worthy art thou, our Gods, to receive the
glory and the honor and the power: for thou
Three didst create all things..."
Only ONE PERSON is being referred to as God- as always!
Rev 5:1- And I saw in the right hand of him that sat
on the throne
(God. No Ghost-God, nor 'God-the-Son')
a book written within and on the back, close sealed with
seven seals.
4- And I wept much, because no one was found worthy to
open the book, or to look thereon:
5- and one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not; behold,
the Lion that is of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David,
hath overcome to open the book and the seven seals thereof.
6- And I saw in the midst of the throne and of the four living
creatures, and in the midst of the elders, a Lamb standing,
as though it had been slain, having seven horns, and seven
eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent forth into
all the earth.
7- And he came, and he taketh it out of the right hand of him
that sat on the throne.
(Christ takes it from God. Not God takes it from Gods.
- no Ghost-God is ever seen.)
8- And when he had taken the book, the four living creatures
and the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb,
having each one a harp, and golden bowls full of incense,
which are the prayers of the saints.
9- And they sing a new song, saying, Worthy art thou to take
the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou was slain,
and didst purchase unto God with thy blood men of every
tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation,
(He didn't purchase them for HIMSELF- but for GOD!)
10- and madest them to be unto our God a kingdom and
priests; and they reign upon earth.
(They, too, refer to God being a Person other than Christ.
The churches also say Earth will be destroyed)
11- And I saw, and I heard a voice of many angels round
about the throne and the living creatures and the elders;
and the number of them was ten thousand times ten
thousand, and thousands of thousands;
12- saying with a great voice, Worthy is the Lamb that hath
been slain to receive the power, and riches, and wisdom,
and might and honor, and glory, and blessing.
(He RECEIVES it. NOT regains it!)
13- And every created thing which is in the heaven, and on
the earth, and under the earth, and on the sea, and all
things are in them, heard I saying, Unto him that sitteth
on the throne, and unto the Lamb, be the blessing, and
the honor, and the glory, and the dominion, for ever and ever.
14- And the four living creatures said, Amen. And the elders
fell down and worshipped.
(AND to the Lamb. God, and Lamb. No Ghost!)
Rev 6:15- And the kings of the earth, and the princes, and
the chief captains, and the rich, and the strong, and every
bondman and freeman, hid themselves in the caves and
in the rocks of the mountains;
16- and they say to the mountains and to the rocks, Fall on
us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the
throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17- for the great day of their wrath is come; and who is able
to stand?
Notice that God and Christ are two seperate persons- and
nowhere is there EVER seen a 3rd person- that ridiculous
Ghost-God of CHURCHianity!
God and Christ work together in Perfect Unity!
Rev 7:9- After these things I saw, and behold, a great
multitude, which no man could number, out of every
nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues,
standing before the throne and before the Lamb,
(The Lamb is not on the Throne- God is.)
arrayed in white robes, and palms in their hands;
10- and they cry with a great voice, saying, Salvation
unto our God who sitteth on the throne,
and unto the Lamb.
(Salvation is ascribed to them BOTH: God willed it,
His Son carried it out.)
11- And all the angels were standing round about
the throne, and about the elders and the four
living creatures; and they fell before the throne
on their faces, and worshipped God,
12- saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom,
and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and
might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
(And again- NO Ghost-God is EVER seen here, nor
ANYWHERE else in the ENTIRE Bible!
There is, as Jesus put it only "One TRUE God"!)
"Salvation we owe to the one
seated on the throne, AND
to the Lamb"!
God, too, is referred to as
our Savior.
He is the one who SENT Christ
to save us, so Salvation is
rightly ascribed to them BOTH.
Christ now rules as King- only
God did, until He handed it
to Christ.
God is the First and Last as to
Supreme Authority & Power.
Christ is First and Last as far as
the first resurrected to
Eternal Life by God, as the
Savior and King provided by
his God.
The double-vision of Church
Dogma causes the vision of
churchoids who trust
CHURCHES instead of GOD
to blur them together- DESPITE
both Jesus himself and ENDLESS
scripture saying God GAVE
these postions to Jesus,
that he was raised ABOVE
HIS FELLOWS!
(Fellow angels)
Only those wanting TRUTH can-
and DO- see!
Rev 7:15 -Therefore are they before the throne of God;
and they serve him day and night in his temple: and
He that sitteth on the throne shall spread his tabernacle
over them.
16- They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more;
neither shall the sun strike upon them, nor any heat:
17- for the Lamb that is in the midst of the throne...
( "Midst"- in other translations= "center". God SITS on this
Throne- not a literal throne, but a symbol of Ruling-
Christ is in it's midst, symbolic of ruling with and by God's
Power. )
... shall be their shepherd, and shall guide them unto
fountains of waters of life: and God shall wipe away
every tear from their eyes.
(Repeated at Ch 21)
Rev 11:15- And the seventh angel sounded; and there
followed great voices in heaven, and they said,
The kingdom of the world is become the kingdom of
our Lord, and of his Christ: and he shall reign for
ever and ever.
God and Christ rule Together- as Father & Son!
(No Holy Ghosty)
Rev 12:10- And I heard a great voice in heaven, saying,
Now is come the salvation, and the power, and the
kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ:
for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who
accuseth them before our God day and night.
Christ means "Anointed One", one given authority.
No one ever has- or ever WILL give God authority;
it is something He has ALWAYS had.
Jesus is the Anointed One (Christ), the one appointed
King...by God!
There you have it!
Every scripture from Genesis thru Revelation that gives
insight to the Identity of God, Christ, and the Power of
the Most High- the Holy Spirit!
May all reading this who are sincere HEAR what God
tells us in these passages!
Agape,
the Mad JW
Often,the Clergy whip a scripture out of context to perform
their magic trick, as with this-
Titus 2:10-Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in all things.
(They never include the REST)
11-For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12-Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13-Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God >>> AND <<< our Savior Jesus Christ ,14-Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
They say; Jesus is called the Great God! He isn't!
How pathetic, With all the scriptures we have just covered, no thinking person will see THAT (the two are set apart)- and then we have the context:
"AND our savior., Jesus Christ.."
Jehovah saved us by providing His son as Savior- so they are BOTH our Saviors, as noted in Rev 7:9- After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no man could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10- and crying out with a loud voice,
�Salvation belongs to our God who sits upon the throne, ... >>> AND <<< to the Lamb!�
Jesus is referred to as "the Grace of God". (vs11)
As shown from previous scripture God and Christ are both given credit for our salvation; God for SENDING His Son- and, of course, Jesus, His son, who carried out his Father's will!
Titus 3:4- But when the kindness of God our Saviour, and his love
toward man, appeared,
5- not by works done in righteousness, which we did ourselves, but
according to his mercy he saved us, through the washing of regeneration
and renewing of the holy spirit,
6- which he poured out upon us richly, through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
7- that, being justified by his grace, we might be made heirs according
to the hope of eternal life.
Here we see the Holy Spirit is POURED OUT.
That is not a description of a Person, a Ghost-God!
The Holy Spirit; the awesome "Power of the Highest" (Gabriel)!
The NEXT verses in the first chapter of Hebrews are always
quoted out of their CONTEXT, which is what is needed to
UNDERSTAND them!
Is Jesus the Almighty?
Why is he to be worshipped (given the highest honor)?
Was he EVER a Messenger (Angel) of God?
Let's see:
Heb 1:1- In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets
at many times and in various ways,
2- but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he
appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.
3- The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of
his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided
purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
4- So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has
inherited is superior to theirs.
Now, has CHURCHanese also given a new definition to the
word "BECAME"?
Notice how Jesus isn't somehow 'returned' to 'Godhood'?
Notice how he is spoken of a an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PERSON than
that of God?
Heb 1:5- For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son,
This day have I begotten thee? and again, I will be to him a Father, And
he shall be to me a Son?
(This question is ANSWERED in the next verses)
6- And when He again bringeth in the firstborn into the world He saith, And
let all the angels of God worship (or show the Highest Honor to) him.
7- And of the angels He saith, Who maketh his angels winds, And his
ministers a flame a fire:
8- but of the Son He saith, Thy throne, O God, (Or "God is thy Throne")
is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of
thy kingdom.
9 -Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, thy
God, hath anointed thee With the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Does the Almighty HAVE a God? Of COURSE not!
Otherwise He wouldn't BE "ALMIGHTY".
Jehovah is the God of Jesus Christ!
And notice how the angels are referred to as Christ's
"fellows", or equals...until this position is GIVEN to Jesus?
Hebrews 2:9 -But we behold him who hath been made a little lower
than the angels, even Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned
with glory and honor, that by the grace of God he should taste of
death for every man.
Notice that God is NEVER referred to as the one coming in the flesh
and dying- it is ALWAYS His own Son...
Heb 3:1-Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling, fix
your thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and high priest whom we confess.
2-He was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as Moses was faithful
in all God's house.
Who can appoint God to ANYTHING?
Can a priest be a priest to HIMSELF?
Only in CHURCHese!
God appointed JESUS as High Priest, His Word, and perfected his
training as such after Christ BECAME a man!
Heb 4:12-For the word of God is living and active.
Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates
even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow;
it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
(Notice how the scripture, like the Holy Spirit, are referred
to as doing things like a living person?)
13-Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight.
Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the
eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
14-Therefore, since we have a great high priest who
has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God,
let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.
15-For we do not have a high priest who is unable to
sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have
one who has been tempted in every way, just as
we are�yet was without sin.
16-Let us then approach the throne of grace with
confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find
grace to help us in our time of need.
Jesus. the High Priest between God and Man.
NOT God, but His SON.
Heb 5:1-Every high priest is selected from among men and
is appointed to represent them in matters related to God,
to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins.
2-He is able to deal gently with those who are ignorant and
are going astray, since he himself is subject to weakness.
3-This is why he has to offer sacrifices for his own sins, as
well as for the sins of the people.
4-No one takes this honor upon himself; he must be called
by God, just as Aaron was.
5-So Christ also did not take upon himself the glory of
becoming a high priest. But God said to him, "You are
my Son; today I have become your Father.
6-And he says in another place, "You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek.
No God-the-Son.
No God-the-Ghost.
Only God, appointing an Eternal Priest- His Son.
Hebrews 7:23-Now there have been many of those priests,
since death prevented them from continuing in office;
24-but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent
priesthood.
25-Therefore he is able to save completely those who come
to God through him, because he always lives to intercede
for them.
Trinitarians can't see the word "through"- because they have
their Trinity Goggles on...
Heb 8:1-The point of what we are saying is this: We do have
such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the
throne of the Majesty in heaven,
2-and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set
up by the Lord, not by man.
Heb 9:14- How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who
through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God,
cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so
that we may serve the living God!
Once again, we have God spoken of as a seperate Person
from Christ. No 'God-the-Son', no 'God-the-Ghost'.
No 'Ghost' is "the Majesty". Jesus isn't; he sits NEXT to Him!
Just the True God, His Son Christ, and the Eternal Spirit-
"the Power of the Most High".
Heb 9:24- For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with
human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he
entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God's presence.
" In God's presence". Meaningless phrase if Jesus was the
One True God- as all his words would be.
We know better!
Heb 10:12- But when this priest had offered for all time
one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand
of God,
13- and since that time he waits for his enemies to
be made his footstool.
No 'God-the-Son', nor 'God-the-Spook'!
Just the "ONLY TRUE God" placing His Son at his Right Hand, waiting
for his Father to tell him the Appointed Time!
Heb 12:1- Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud
of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin
that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race
marked out for us,
2- fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. For the
joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and
sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
The Joy was the joy of making his God & Father happy, and
saving mankind from his own fate!
Contrary to Trinity Garble, Jesus did not return to Heaven as the
Supreme, Almighty God, and sit on the Throne....LOOK at
what is SAID- if you want Truth!
Heb 12:18- You have not come to a mountain that can be touched
and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm;
19- to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those
who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them,
20- because they could not bear what was commanded: "If even an
animal touches the mountain, it must be stoned to death."
21- The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, "I am trembling with fear."
22- But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon
thousands of angels in joyful assembly,
23- to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven.
You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the
righteous made perfect,
24- to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled
blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
Where is the Trinity? Will it EVER show up???? Heh.
Seen here are Heavely Jerusalem, angels, God....and Jesus.
No 'God-the-Son', no 'God-the-Ghost'.
Heb 13:20- Now may the God of peace, who through the blood of
the eternal covenant brought back from the dead our Lord Jesus,
that great Shepherd of the sheep,
21- equip you with everything good for doing His will, and may He
work in us what is pleasing to Him, through Jesus Christ, to
whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
There is God, and mankind communicates with Him thru, not
ANOTHER God, but thru Jesus!
James 1:1- James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ,
To the twelve tribes scattered among the nations: Greetings!
James, one of Christs brothers (of Mary & Joseph) opens his letter
stating his devotion to the Only True God- AND His Son.
No 'God-the-Son', no 'God-the-Ghost'.
James 2:19- You believe that there is one God. Good!
Even the demons believe that�and shudder.
Hah! - Even the demons know, but not churchoids who gullibly
believe anything the clergy spout!
EVERY worshipper of the True God knew God as
simply ONE Person- NEVER Three!
Not ONE SINGLE reference to a Trinity, a Triune
ANYTHING!
Never is the term 'God-the-Son' used!
Never is a 'Holy Ghost' worshipped!
James 4:8-Come near to God and HE will come near to you.
Now, I must remind all, it NEVER says "THEY" will come
near you.... And if the 'Triune Godhead' of CHURCHianity
were True...it always WOULD!
1 Pet 1:18- For you know that it was not with perishable
things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed
from the empty way of life handed down to you from
your ancestors,
19- but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without
blemish or defect. 20- He was chosen before the creation
of the world, but was revealed in these last times for
your sake.
21- Through him you believe in God, who raised him from
the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope
are in God.
Again, let's read this with the Trinity Goggles on:
"You were redeeemed with the very Bloof of our Triune Lords.
Through Them you believe in HIM, who raised himself from
the dead and glorified himself, and so your faith and hope
are in Them."
Do you REALLY believe that?
1 Pet 2:4- As you come to him, the living Stone�rejected
by human beings but chosen by God and precious to him�
5- you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual
house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices
acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
Trinity Goggles:"offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God
through... GOD?"....Nah!
I never thought there was anything GOOD about the Trinity
Goggles- until I tried them on again!
They sure reveal the Corruption of the Dogma rather quickly,
don't they?
1 Pet 3:18- For Christ also suffered once for sins,
the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God.
"For God also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous,
to bring you to Himself and a Ghost"? Oh, cmon, Trinnies, Onnies!
Nope! Total nonsense, as usual!
1 Peter 3:21- and this water symbolizes baptism that now
saves you also-not the removal of dirt from the body but
the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by
the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
22- who has gone into heaven and is at God's right hand,
with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.
Churchianity teaches Jesus NEVER died, was NEVER resurrected; "it was just the flesh!"
TRUE Christians know Jesus told all he was surrendering, laying down his very LIFE!
There is God- and there is Jesus, on the Right Hand.
No Spook on the 'Left Hand'!
2 Peter 1:2- Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the knowledge of God >>> and <<< of Jesus our Lord.
As ALWAYS, God is spoken of separately from Jesus- and no 'Ghost' is referred to...
2 Pet 1:17- For he received from God the Father honor and
glory when such a voice came to him from the Excellent
Glory: " This is My beloved son, in whom I am well pleased"
18- And we heard this voice which came from heaven when
we were with him on the holy mountain.
With the trinity Goggles on, it reads:
"God received from God honor and glory when God spoke
to Himself when...."
Yecch!
1 John 4:12- No man hath beheld God at any time: if we
love one another, God abideth in us, and his love is
perfected in us.
Man saw Christ.
No man has seen God.
Connect the dots!
1 John 5:20- We know also that the Son of God has come
and has given us understanding, so that we may know him
who is true. And we are in him who is true by being in his
Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
With the trinity Goggles on,all this blends and blurs together:
"God has come, and has given us this understanding, that we may
know God. And we are IN God, by being IN God. God is the True God
and eternal life!"...
Notice, that Jesus came to help us KNOW his God and Father.
Same thing today- except that the Spirit has empowered us
to do it, as Jesus had prophesied! (Matt 24:14)
The Book of Revelation opens up with words that IMMEDIATELY
destroy the Trinity Fable:
Rev 1:1- The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him
to show unto his servants, even the things which must shortly
come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto
his servant John...
WHO gave it to Jesus? God-the Ghost, or the
Nameless 'God-the-Father' of Church Spin?
No GOD did! Not another God, not a part of Jesus- but
" the Only TRUE God " as Jesus himself referred to him!
Rev 1:4- John to the seven churches that are in Asia:
Grace to you and peace, from him who is and who
was and who is to come; and from the seven Spirits
that are before his throne;
5-and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,
the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings
of the earth. Unto him that loveth us, and loosed us
from our sins by his blood;
6- and he made us to be a kingdom, to be priests unto
his God and Father; to him be the glory and the
dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Regardless of how the antichrists refuse to answer the
question "Does Jesus HAVE a God", Jesus HIMSELF
answered it MANY times, such as in Revelation!
[John]
7- Behold, he cometh with clouds; and
every eye shall see him, and they also
which pierced him: and all kindreds
of the earth shall wail because of him.
Even so, Amen.
[God]
8- I am Alpha and Omega, the
beginning and the ending, saith the
Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
[John]
9- I John, who also am your brother,
and companion in tribulation,
and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is
called Patmos, for the word of God,
and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
[John]
10- I was in the Spirit on the Lord's
day, and heard behind me a
great voice, as of a trumpet,
[God]
11- Saying, I am Alpha and Omega,
the first and the last: and, What
thou seest, write in a book, and
send it unto the seven churches
which are in Asia; unto Ephesus,
and unto Smyrna, and unto
Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and
unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia,
and unto Laodicea.
[John]
12-And I turned to see the voice that
spake with me. And being turned,
I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13- And in the midst of the seven
candlesticks one like unto the Son
of man, clothed with a garment
down to the foot, and girt about the
paps with a golden girdle.
[Christ]
14-His head and his hairs were white
like wool, as white as snow;
and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15-And his feet like unto fine brass,
as if they burned in a furnace;
and his voice as the sound of
many waters.
[God's voice was like a great Trumpet- Christ's as many waters]
[John]
16-And he had in his right hand
seven stars: and out of his mouth
went a sharp twoedged sword: and
his countenance was as the sun
shineth in his strength.
17- And when I saw him, I fell at his feet
as dead. And he laid his right hand
upon me, saying unto me,
Fear not; I am the first and the last:
[Similar, but different from the
"Alpha and Omega"]
[Jesus]
18- I am he that liveth, and was dead;
and, behold, I am alive for evermore,
Amen; and have the keys
of hell and of death.
Notice Rev 1:10? - I was in the Spirit
on the Lord's day...
Was John inside the 'Ghost-God', or
was he under the
influence of the Holy Power from God?
(TOUGH one!) Heh!
Rev 2:26- And he that overcometh, and he that keepeth
my works unto the end, to him will I give authority
over the nations:
27- and he shall rule them with a rod of iron, as the
vessels of the potter are broken to shivers; as I also
have received of my Father...
Here Jesus re-affirms the prophecy of Daniel 2:44, as
well as, again, that this authority was GIVEN Him.
No one can give God authority! He always has- and always
WILL have the ULTIMATE authority!!!
Rev 3:12- He that overcometh, I will make him a pillar
in the temple of
my God,
and he shall go out thence no more: and I will write
upon him the name of
my God,
and the name of the city of
my God,
the new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven
from
my God,
and mine own new name.
Here, FOUR TIMES IN A ROW Jesus says he has a God!
Can it be any PLAINER?
Rev 3:14- And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write:
These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness,
the beginning of the creation of God...
The BEGINNING of CREATION (or "creature" -created thing-
in the KJV).
Clergy try to say this is just a Title of Authority.
They HAVE no "Ear" that "Hears" what the spirit says!
Even if "Beginning" WAS a title (it's NOT) it still shows
that Christ is a PART of Creation!
Thus they have to warp the meaning of EVERY term
God uses to describes His "son", his "only-begotten".
Thus the complete dumbing-down of churchoids who
trust THEM, instead of Christ!
The spirit enables the sincere to see thru the illusion!
Rev 4:9- And when the living creatures shall give glory and
honor and thanks to Him that sitteth on the throne, to
Him that liveth for ever and ever,
10- the four and twenty elders shall fall down before Him
that sitteth on the throne, and shall worship Him that liveth
for ever and ever, and shall cast their crowns before the
throne, saying,
11- Worthy art thou, our Lord (Used for "Jehovah" in Koine Greek) and our God,
to receive the glory and the honor and the power: for Thou didst create
all things, and because of Thy will they were, and were created.
With the Trinity Goggles on, it reads:
"to THEM that sit on the Thrones"
"to Them that live for ever"
"Worthy art thou, our Gods, to receive the
glory and the honor and the power: for thou
Three didst create all things..."
Only ONE PERSON is being referred to as God- as always!
Rev 5:1- And I saw in the right hand of him that sat
on the throne
(God. No Ghost-God, nor 'God-the-Son')
a book written within and on the back, close sealed with
seven seals.
4- And I wept much, because no one was found worthy to
open the book, or to look thereon:
5- and one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not; behold,
the Lion that is of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David,
hath overcome to open the book and the seven seals thereof.
6- And I saw in the midst of the throne and of the four living
creatures, and in the midst of the elders, a Lamb standing,
as though it had been slain, having seven horns, and seven
eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent forth into
all the earth.
7- And he came, and he taketh it out of the right hand of him
that sat on the throne.
(Christ takes it from God. Not God takes it from Gods.
- no Ghost-God is ever seen.)
8- And when he had taken the book, the four living creatures
and the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb,
having each one a harp, and golden bowls full of incense,
which are the prayers of the saints.
9- And they sing a new song, saying, Worthy art thou to take
the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou was slain,
and didst purchase unto God with thy blood men of every
tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation,
(He didn't purchase them for HIMSELF- but for GOD!)
10- and madest them to be unto our God a kingdom and
priests; and they reign upon earth.
(They, too, refer to God being a Person other than Christ.
The churches also say Earth will be destroyed)
11- And I saw, and I heard a voice of many angels round
about the throne and the living creatures and the elders;
and the number of them was ten thousand times ten
thousand, and thousands of thousands;
12- saying with a great voice, Worthy is the Lamb that hath
been slain to receive the power, and riches, and wisdom,
and might and honor, and glory, and blessing.
(He RECEIVES it. NOT regains it!)
13- And every created thing which is in the heaven, and on
the earth, and under the earth, and on the sea, and all
things are in them, heard I saying, Unto him that sitteth
on the throne, and unto the Lamb, be the blessing, and
the honor, and the glory, and the dominion, for ever and ever.
14- And the four living creatures said, Amen. And the elders
fell down and worshipped.
(AND to the Lamb. God, and Lamb. No Ghost!)
Rev 6:15- And the kings of the earth, and the princes, and
the chief captains, and the rich, and the strong, and every
bondman and freeman, hid themselves in the caves and
in the rocks of the mountains;
16- and they say to the mountains and to the rocks, Fall on
us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the
throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17- for the great day of their wrath is come; and who is able
to stand?
Notice that God and Christ are two seperate persons- and
nowhere is there EVER seen a 3rd person- that ridiculous
Ghost-God of CHURCHianity!
God and Christ work together in Perfect Unity!
Rev 7:9- After these things I saw, and behold, a great
multitude, which no man could number, out of every
nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues,
standing before the throne and before the Lamb,
(The Lamb is not on the Throne- God is.)
arrayed in white robes, and palms in their hands;
10- and they cry with a great voice, saying, Salvation
unto our God who sitteth on the throne,
and unto the Lamb.
(Salvation is ascribed to them BOTH: God willed it,
His Son carried it out.)
11- And all the angels were standing round about
the throne, and about the elders and the four
living creatures; and they fell before the throne
on their faces, and worshipped God,
12- saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom,
and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and
might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
(And again- NO Ghost-God is EVER seen here, nor
ANYWHERE else in the ENTIRE Bible!
There is, as Jesus put it only "One TRUE God"!)
"Salvation we owe to the one
seated on the throne, AND
to the Lamb"!
God, too, is referred to as
our Savior.
He is the one who SENT Christ
to save us, so Salvation is
rightly ascribed to them BOTH.
Christ now rules as King- only
God did, until He handed it
to Christ.
God is the First and Last as to
Supreme Authority & Power.
Christ is First and Last as far as
the first resurrected to
Eternal Life by God, as the
Savior and King provided by
his God.
The double-vision of Church
Dogma causes the vision of
churchoids who trust
CHURCHES instead of GOD
to blur them together- DESPITE
both Jesus himself and ENDLESS
scripture saying God GAVE
these postions to Jesus,
that he was raised ABOVE
HIS FELLOWS!
(Fellow angels)
Only those wanting TRUTH can-
and DO- see!
Rev 7:15 -Therefore are they before the throne of God;
and they serve him day and night in his temple: and
He that sitteth on the throne shall spread his tabernacle
over them.
16- They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more;
neither shall the sun strike upon them, nor any heat:
17- for the Lamb that is in the midst of the throne...
( "Midst"- in other translations= "center". God SITS on this
Throne- not a literal throne, but a symbol of Ruling-
Christ is in it's midst, symbolic of ruling with and by God's
Power. )
... shall be their shepherd, and shall guide them unto
fountains of waters of life: and God shall wipe away
every tear from their eyes.
(Repeated at Ch 21)
Rev 11:15- And the seventh angel sounded; and there
followed great voices in heaven, and they said,
The kingdom of the world is become the kingdom of
our Lord, and of his Christ: and he shall reign for
ever and ever.
God and Christ rule Together- as Father & Son!
(No Holy Ghosty)
Rev 12:10- And I heard a great voice in heaven, saying,
Now is come the salvation, and the power, and the
kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ:
for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who
accuseth them before our God day and night.
Christ means "Anointed One", one given authority.
No one ever has- or ever WILL give God authority;
it is something He has ALWAYS had.upon
Jesus is the Anointed One (Christ), the one appointed
King...by God!
A curious account verifying this is found at -
Ex 33:20- And He said, Thou canst not see my face; for Man shall not see me, and live.
21-And Jehovah said, Behold, [there is] a place by me: there shalt thou stand on the rock.
22-And it shall come to pass, when my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand, until I have passed by.
23-And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see me from behind; but my face shall not be seen.
My guess is that 'behind' was the only term Moses could understand; a way of saying
a very small PART of Him. Maybe it was blinding light....for~
Ex 34:35- the people of Israel saw the face of Moses, that the skin of Mose's face shone!
Deut 6:4- Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.-ASV
Self explanatory! (Neither THREE, nor Three-in-One)
One particular account gives a clear picture of God's Spirit! See if it is 1/3 God- a 'Holy Ghost', or...
Num 11:16- And Jehovah said to Moses, “Gather for me seventy men of the elders of Israel, whom you know to be the elders of the people and officers over them; and bring them to the tent of meeting, and let them take their stand there with you. 17- And I will come down and talk with you there; and I will take >>> some <<< of the spirit which is upon you and put >>> IT <<< upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with you, that you may not bear it yourself alone.
(Repeated several times in the account)
God HIMSELF calls the holy spirit "IT"- SEVERAL times, and says He will take SOME of IT from Moses.
Was the Ghost-God of Churchianity chopped up & passed around?
Did Almighty God #1 call God #3 "IT"????
Of COURSE not!
From Exodus thru to Isaiah, the endless dealings of Jehovah with Israel and the nations show Him to be ONE PERSON.
Never does He speak of Himself to the people as "We" or "Ourselves". Always as "I".
And never is a Ghost-God seen, or referred to.
Josh 5:13- And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand:
and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?
14- And he said, Nay; but as prince of the host of Jehovah am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? 15- And the prince of Jehovah’s host said unto Joshua, Put off thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.
Another example where an angel represented God!
AND, this angel is WORSHIPPED, as JESUS was!
WHY? "Worship" simply means to show the highets honor or respect to someone.
It's not til we get to Isaiah, that He foretells the coming of His son- giving us insight into his many roles~
Isa 9: 6- For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7- Of the increase of his government and of peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to establish it, and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of Jehovah of hosts will perform this. -ASV
The clergy have long used this to prop up
their Trinity Dogma, saying see there:
"MIGHTY GOD! ETERNAL FATHER! Jesus is God Almighty- there is the PROOF!"
It IS proof...of their ignorance and deception.
NO translation reads "Almighty".
Angels, and Moses "were" God. (Ex 7:1)
Many are...FATHERS, both literally, and figuratively.
JESUS has a Father, and has become one to US!
'Mighty God', in the Hebrew term "el gbur" literally means "Mighty Godlike Warrior",
and is applied to mighty rulers, gods of ancient people- and also the True God,
as well as it was to be applied to His Son.
Isa 9 does NOT say God HIMSELF is to come- as WOULD be the case if the 'Trinity' was real- buuuuut says He will GIVE this individual to mankind.
Since Christ (as he is called later) has always been the Word (Spokesman) of God- even to ancient Israel,
he, as with Moses, REPRESENTS God, as shown by this and many other references. He is not his own Father,
but has become the eternal father of mankind. He created the human race thru his Father's Holy Spirit- and he later DIED
for us, and their 'immortal soul' dogma even belies THAT!
The shell game the clergy have played for CENTURIES~
They quote Isa 42: 8, where it says
"I am the Lord, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another" (most translations), saying that this proves Jesus was always God, that He would not GIVE glory to Christ, nor any other. They not only spurn the Name (replacing it with "LORD"), but also don't quote the whole verse when abusing it:
Isa 42:8- I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise unto graven images.
SELF EXPLANATORY!
We all know He later DID share His Glory with His son, giving him all Power & Authority, as pictured in Daniel 7!
Israel was starting to worship the imaginary Gods of the nations....
Isa 46:5- Who will you compare me to? Who is equal to me? What am I like? Who can you compare me to?
6- Some people pour gold out of their bags. They weigh out silver on the scales. They hire someone who works
with gold to make it into a God. They bow down to it and worship it.
7- They lift it up on their shoulders and carry it. They set it up in its place. And there it stands.
It can't move from that spot. Someone might cry out to it. But it does not answer him.
It can't save him from his troubles.
8- So remember that, you who refuse to obey me. Keep it in your minds and hearts.
9- Remember what happened in the past. Think about what took place long ago.
I am God. There is no other God. I am God. There is no one like me.
10- Before something even happens, I announce how it will end.
In fact, from times long ago I announced what was still to come.
I say, " My plan will succeed. I will do anything I want to do. "
Again, the True God stresses that He ( not ' We ' ) is the ONLY True God-
the rest being no more than figments of mans Imagination.
No 'Triune' ANYTHING is EVER referred to or mentioned!
Isaiah 53: 11- After he has suffered, he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities.
My Servant, will justify the many, As He will bear their iniquities.
(Read 1-60.)
God Almighty never has, nor ever WILL be anyone's servant: JESUS was!
Jeremiah was inspired by God�s Breath (the Holy Spirit) to give another prophecy of the coming of
Christ, while the Jews were captives in Babylon:
Jer 30:8- And it shall come to pass in that day, saith Jehovah of hosts, that I will break his
yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds; and strangers shall no more make
him their bondman;
9- but they shall serve Jehovah their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
Notice that God was NOT talking about Himself- but someone in ADDITION to Himself!!
Any pretence at being a Christian is quickly proven false when denying the One who
SENT him, the One Jesus Served. (Not TWO)
Next comes the ancient Hebrew prophet, Ezekiel, who has a VISION of God! Did he see three beings, or.....
Ez 1: 1- Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth [month], on the fifth of the month, as I was among the captives by
the river Chebar, the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God.
3 -the word of Jehovah came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river
Chebar; and the hand of Jehovah was there upon him.
4-And I looked, and behold, a stormy wind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness
was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the look of glowing brass, out of the midst of the fire.
5- Also out of the midst thereof, the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: they had the likeness of a man.
24- And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, a tumultuous
noise, as the noise of a host: when they stood, they let down their wings;
25- and there was a voice from above the expanse that was over their heads. When they stood, they let down their wings.
26- And above the expanse that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone; and
upon the likeness of the throne was a likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.
27- And I saw as the look of glowing brass, as the appearance of fire, within it round about; from the appearance of his loins and
upward, and from the appearance of his loins and downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness
round about.
28- As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about.
This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of Jehovah. And when I saw, I fell on my face, and I heard a voice of one that spoke.
2:1- And he said unto me, "son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak with thee."
2-And the Spirit entered into me when he spoke unto me, and set me upon my feet; and I heard him that spoke unto me.
No 'God-the-Son', nor a 'God-the-Ghost'. Just ONE Grand Personage we know as Jehovah!
NOWHERE in ANY of the many visions of God is there seen ANYTHING like the Trinity!
Just Jehovah, then later, after his appointment His son.
"The Spirit"- does that appear to be a God Ghost- or the power of God?
Keep in mind , as you read it, that the Hebrew (and the Greek) word used literally means "wind/and "breath":
Ez 11:22 - Then did the cherubim lift up their wings, and the wheels were beside them; and the glory of the God of Israel was over them above.
23- And the glory of Jehovah went up from the midst of the city, and stood upon the mountain which is on the east side of the city.
24- And the Spirit lifted me up, and brought me in the vision by the Spirit of God into Chaldea, to them of the captivity. So the vision that I
had seen went up from me.
25- Then I spake unto them of the captivity all the things that Jehovah had showed me. -ASV
One's belief of what the holy spirit is can easily flavor our understanding of this verse; was it the POWER of God that enabled Ezekiel to see
and experience this vision- or a 'God-the-Ghost'?
Daniel, the ancient Hebrew prophet, was the next to 'see' God - and also the one we know as Christ, in a vision long before Jesus was given the name "Jesus"-
Daniel 7: 9 - As I looked, thrones were set in place, and the Ancient of Days took his seat. His clothing was as white as snow;
the hair of his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze.
10 - A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand
times ten thousand stood before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened.
13- In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He
approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence.
14-And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him:
his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
Note how the "son of man" is "coming with the clouds"- and prophesied of the Last Days.
This takes place in HEAVEN.
There is no 3-Person Godhead, with one God giving another God this kingship.
The simple- yet dynamic- picture reveals the One TRUE God choosing someone to be the King of Kings. (See Dan 2:44)
We KNOW who that one is!
Malachi 3:1- “Behold, I send my messenger [literally "ANGEL"] to prepare the way before me,
and the Lord [Jesus] whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple;
the messenger [literally "ANGEL"] of the covenant in whom you delight, behold, he is coming, says Jehovah of hosts.
2- But who can endure the day of his coming, and who can stand when he appears?
John was the first messenger, who prepared the way of the second- Lord Jesus.
The Hebrew word "malaki", translated here as "messenger" is often translated as "angel".
"Angel" MEANS "Messenger" in Hebrew and Greek!
John and Jesus were angels!
Well, continuing to scan the many references to God we come to the Book of Matthew, in the 'New Testament'-
Matt 1:19- And Joseph her husband, being a righteous man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privately. 20- But when he thought on these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, " Joseph,
thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the holy spirit.
21- And she shall bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name JESUS; for it is he that shall save his people from
their sins. "
Was this a Ghost-God that impregnated Mary- or "the Power of the Most High", as Gabriel soon describes it to Mary?
"Jesus" literally means "Salvation of
Jehovah" / "Jehovah is Salvation" (in Hebrew).
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Matt 1:22- Now all this is come to pass, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying,
23- Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Immanuel; which is, being
interpreted, God with us. - ASV
Now we all know Trinitarians try to use this to 'prove' Jesus was God (that's the only reason its here); fact
is MANY Hebrew names had this, or similar meaning. The Names were usually to cement faith in God.
They are so DESPERATE to prop up their fantasy that they imagine it in every word!
God is ALWAYS with those who sincerely try to do His Will, and those with 'good' hearts!
Jesus was not called "Immanuel"; the name was symbolic.
Next comes the scripture long contorted & twisted to justify the X-Mas celebration.
Jesus was NOT a newborn- but had ALREADY been born when astrologers ("magi" /"wise men"- in weak translations) noticed
a bright light they called "his star".
Note that Herod has boys up to TWO YEARS OLD killed. Also, keep in mind that traveling in those days took a LOT
of time; no cars, planes, or buses!
(Luke 2:4-21 tells how he WAS born, earlier, in Bethlehem (no astrologers/magi/ "wise men"), and was taken to the temple
in Jerusalem eight days later. That happened BEFORE this account in Matthew- thus, Herod killing the
infant boys TWO YEARS OLD and younger!)
Matt 2:1- Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men [Astrologers/Magicians]
from the east came to Jerusalem, asking, 2-Where is he Who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen his star
in the east at its rising and have come to worship him.
Keep in mind that "worship" in the KJV is a word used to show the highest honor- and was always
applied to those showing honor to Kings. Today, it is a word used only of God- in the U.S.; but, in England
it is STILL commonly used with government officials!
God passionately CONDEMNS astrology, stating how much He detests it.
So he would NEVER lead Astologers with a Star to the one with the power and desire to KILL His son!
Do the details indicate to YOU that GOD's the one sending the star?
Matt 2:7- Then Herod privily called the Wise-men (Magi/Astrologers), and learned of them exactly what time the
star appeared. 8- And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search out exactly concerning the young child; and when
ye have found him, bring me word, that I also may come and worship him.
9- And they, having heard the king, went their way; and lo, he star, which they saw in the east,
went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.
This 'star' doesn't lead them to the young boy Christ... until they meet with Herod, who sends the army behind them! This account however, doesn't give us any special insight into God's identity- except by reflective contrast: it was He who GAVE us the Savior, and who is now protecting him.
Is this a 'God -Person #2', born as a child? Is The 'Father God #1 and the Ghost God #3' in Heaven?
Or is it (gasp!) the only BEGOTTEN son of God (not to be confused with 'God-the-Son' - the exact OPPOSITE- of Catholic origin)?
Matt 3:16- As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened,
and he saw the spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him.
17- And a voice from heaven said,' This is my son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. '
To really learn, we must first pray, and ask our Maker to give us insight as we read. AND, set aside preconceptions- to see
what the scriptures say- not man.
Again, the Holy Spirit- which is referred to as 'Power' by the angel Gabriel, is seen as a glowing shape,
'LIKE' a dove; doves almost glow in sunlight.
No human-like form as with God, Christ and angels appear in vision, as angels used to appear when on earth. ALWAYS
some form of light. At Pentecost- ( Acts2 ) the sound of a rushing
breeze is heard ('Spirit'/ Ruach, Pnema/Wind), and it appears 'Like' flame- but that's getting ahead of this point.
Then the Voice.
Was God #1 ('God-the-Father') sending God #3 ('God-the-Ghost') upon God #2, who was now a man to possess 'Him'?
Many claim Jesus IS the Father.
( " I and the Father are One " )
Most view them as somehow seperate
Persons that are ONE Person! Heh!
Simple fact: God speaks to His Son
from Heaven.
-
Trinitarians, say Satan was
tempting God Almighty!
Read this carefully- and see if that
makes ANY kind of sense!
Matt 4:1- Then Jesus was led by the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
[Did a Ghost-God lead the Son God?]
2- After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry.
3- The tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread."
4- Jesus answered, " It is written: People do not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from
the mouth of God. "
5- Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple.
6- "If you are the son of God,' he said, ' throw yourself down. For it is written: ' He will
command His angels concerning you,
[ If Jesus is the Almighty- aren't they HIS angels? ]
and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone."
7- Jesus answered him, " It is also written: ' Do not put Jehovah your God to the test.'
[ God's Name Jehovah/Yahweh was removed, and replaced with ' LORD ' ]
8- Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their
splendor. 9- " All this I will give you," he said, " if you will bow down and worship me."
[They ALREADY belonged to the Almighty- not to Satan OR Jesus, yet.]
10- Jesus said to him, 'Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship Jehovah [ "Jehovah" was removed again ] and serve him only.' 11- Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.
Would Satan be Stupid enough to try and tempt God Almighty????
Did Jesus say ANYTHING that implied, hinted, or showed HIM to be the Almighty?
Only the title 'LORD' that translators substituted might give someone that impression.
Here, where Jesus quoted from the Hebrew scriptures (OT) he would NOT have substituted "Lord" for the Name
of his God & Father!
Finally, Christ referred to the authority of the Scriptures as the basis for his stand, NEVER saying
' I don't live on Bread- I'm God, as you know!', or 'It is ME ALONE you should worship!'
No- he refers to the Law of his God- the Only TRUE God, Jehovah.
To understand what the Bible REALLY says, one must set aside pre-conceived concepts
taught by Religion, and FOCUS on what the BIBLE itself says!
Here are classic examples:
(1) If you read the word 'Soul' and
think of religious dogma, you will be
misled- for a 'soul' is NEVER referred
to as immortal, nor taught as such in
the Bible- unless it is referring to God,
Christ, or those GIVEN immortality.
"Souls" die, and are destroyed.
(2) If you read of Jesus' Father, and think
it 'God-the-Father' of Trinity
deception, you will AGAIN be misled-
and miss the things Christ reveals
about his GOD and Father.
Try looking closer, now!
Matt 10:18 - On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the
Gentiles. 19- But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, 20- for it will not be you speaking, but the spirit of your Father speaking through you.
The breath (spirit) of the Father (Jehovah). The "POWER" of God directed them what to say. No Nameless Ghost God possessed them.
Does this sound like we will be possessed by a Ghost God that will speak thru us?
Or the POWER Gabriel spoke of to Mary, the POWER Christ spoke of at his ascension-
"the Power of the Most High"?
Matt 9:8- When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to man.
These Jews knew Jesus wasn't God- but given authority by him...
Matt 10: 29- Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? But not one of them will fall to the ground without your Father knowing about it already. 30- but the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31- Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows. 32- Every one therefore who shall confess me before men, him will I also confess before my Father who is in heaven. 33- But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father who is in heaven. 40- He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth Him that sent me.
'My Father' is a separate One he referred to a God. Jesus later tells Mary He is his GOD.
The opening of most 'New Testament' books open with something like 'Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord, Jesus Christ'.
So Jesus is NOT God- as seen in his every reference; here he says he will represent mankind to his Father (God).
If he WAS God, this would be a MEANINGLESS statement. (Altho Trinitarians can conjure up excuses for ANYTHING!)
Matt 11: 25- At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have
hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26- Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27- All things have been delivered to me by my Father, and no one knows the son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the son, and the one to whom the son wills to reveal Him.
Who is this 'Father' Christ speaks of?
Some Trinitarians have told me Jesus is ALSO the Father!
And yet the common Version of the Trinity holds they are Three Separate Beings (i.e. Gods) sharing the same
office, claiming they have equal authority, yet Christ NEVER said he was equal with God- even tho some of the scriptures seem to say it in THEIR minds.
Philippians 2 even tells us Jesus never even CONSIDERED trying to be equal with God! Thus it is important to pay close attention to Christ's word FIRST- for HE should KNOW!
Matt 12:15- Jesus, aware of this, withdrew from there. And many followed him, and he healed them all, 16- and ordered them not to make him known. 17- This was to fulfil what was spoken by the prophet Isaiah:
18- Behold, my servant whom I have chosen, my beloved with whom my soul is well pleased. I will put my spirit [breath] upon him, and he shall proclaim justice to the Gentiles. 19- He will not wrangle or cry aloud, nor will any one hear his voice in the streets.
God is NO ONE'S servant. Jesus is GOD'S servant.
And One God wasn't put into ANOTHER God by God!!!
Churches say the Spirit of God is a Ghost-God; nameless, never seen, a Co-Equal God with, the Jesus-God, and the God-God (the Father).
Does that fit in with what Christ says NEXT? :
Matt 12: 31- Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven men. 32- Anyone who speaks a word against the son of man [Jesus], it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Jesus HIMSELF shows the spirit to be superior to himself; no Co-Equal Godhead here!
Why people can be forgiven if they blaspheme JESUS!
But NOT his God and Father, whom they speak against when speaking against what He says- who SENDS His Holy Breath ("Spirit") ...
Matt 13:15- He said to them, 'But who do you say that I am?' 16- Simon Peter replied, 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' 17- And Jesus answered him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven."
Notice Peter didn't say "God" or "Part of the Holt Trinity" or "Godman"?
The 'Trinity' is NOWHERE in the Bible, being a fabricated word for a fabricated dogma!
Matt 14:28- And Peter answered him, "Lord, if it is you, bid me come to you on the water."
29- He said, "Come." So Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water and came to Jesus;
30- but when he saw the wind, he was afraid, and beginning to sink he cried out, "Lord, save me."
31- Jesus immediately reached out his hand and caught him, saying to him, "O man of little faith, why did you doubt?" 32- And when they got into the boat, the wind ceased.
33- And those in the boat worshiped [ Grk "proskunio" meaning to kiss, like a dog licking his master's hand,
to fawn or crouch to literally or figuratively prostrate oneself in homage/do reverence to, adore] him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God."
Notice they didn't say anything like "Truly you are God!"
Fascinating account! It makes one think of just what we COULD be capable of IF not hampered by fear and some lack in our faith
Matt 14:35- And when the men of that place recognized him, they sent round to all that region and brought to him all that were sick, 36- and besought him that they might only touch the fringe of his garment; and as many as touched it were made well.
There never was any ridiculous 'Holy Ghost'; the Power/ holy spirit of God that radiated from Jesus!
It was the Power ('spirit') of his God and Father.
Matt 15:29- And Jesus went on from there and passed along the Sea of Galilee. And he went up on the mountain, and sat down there. 30- And great crowds came to him, bringing with them the lame, the maimed, the blind, the dumb, and many others, and they put them at his feet, and he healed them, 31- so that the throng wondered, when they saw the dumb speaking, the maimed whole, the lame walking, and the blind seeing; and they glorified the God of Israel.
Notice they didn't glorify Jesus- but 'The God of Israel"?
They knew who gave Jesus that power & authority!
Even churchoids know that was Jehovah- so they attempt to merge the two!
Matt 16:26- What good will it be for you to gain the whole world, yet forfeit your soul?
Or what can you give in exchange for your soul? 27- For the son of man is going to come in his Father's glory with his angels, and then he will reward everyone according to what they have done."
Notice Jesus says he will come with his FATHER'S Glory & Angels?
The Glory & the Angels would have ALWAYS been HIS...if he were literally God... But, he never has been-
EXCEPT as His Spokesman, His... WORD!
Matt 18:19- Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20-For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Not "in OUR Names" (God said His Name, Jehovah, would be so- FOREVER!)
Matt 20: 23- Jesus said to them, "You will indeed drink from my cup, but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared by my Father."
No "Co-Equality" seen here. EITHER! His Father- his GOD- has superior authority.
No Ghost is mentioned. WHERE is the 'Trinity'???
EVERYTHING Christ said and taught about himself and his Father made it EASY to discern he was not God- but one close & dear to Him~
Matt 22:1- Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying: 2- "The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son..."
Here he used an Illustration EVERY SINGLE JEW could easily understand: Father & Son.
Many Trinitarians have told me Jesus IS the Father. They ALL believe they (and a Nameless Ghost) are co-equal,
as taught by the Clergy, instead of believing Jesus.
Matthew 21:33- Hear another parable. A man who owned some land planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it. He dug a pit for a winepress in it. He also built a lookout tower. He rented the vineyard out to some farmers. Then he went away on a journey.... 34- When harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the renters. He told the servants to collect his share of the fruit. 35- But the renters grabbed his servants.They beat one of them. They killed another. They threw stones at the third to kill him. 36- Then the man sent other servants to the renters. He sent more than he did the first time. The renters treated them the same way. 37- Last of all, he sent his son to them. 'They will respect my son,' he said. 38- But the renters saw the son coming. They said to each other, 'This is the one who will receive all the owner's property someday. Come, let's kill him. Then everything will be ours.' 39- So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard. Then they killed him. 40- When the owner of the vineyard comes back, what will he do to those renters?
The "Man who owned some Land" didn't come; he sent his son!
When He does return- He will do so in Fury- thus "the Day of Fury" referred to in the Bible!
Back to the subject: NOTHING in the Bible says God came in the flesh (altho He became "manifest" or KNOWN in the flesh, thru Jesus)- everywhere it tells us He sent His Only-Begotten Son! Churchianity rejects that with passion!
Matt 22:29- Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.
30- At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.
31- But about the resurrection of the dead have you not read what God said to you,
32- 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob' ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living." 33- When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at his teaching.
Now people will read MANY things into THESE words- but one thing is DEAD CERTAIN: Jesus was, AGAIN, referring to God as someone OTHER than himself!
(He didn't say "Didn't you read what I or We said to you?")
Matt 22:42 - saying, What think ye of the Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David.
43- He saith unto them, How then doth David in the spirit call him Lord, saying,
44- Jehovah said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Till I put thine enemies underneath thy feet?
45- If David then calleth him Lord, how is he his son? 46- And no one was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.
You Trinitarians say WHAT?
One 'Almighty God' says to ANOTHER 'Almighty God' to sit at His right hand until He subdues his enemies????
There is no 'Trinity' here!
Here Jesus quotes the Psalms where it says "Jehovah said to my Lord". (No form of God's name existed in the Kione Greek)
An early prophecy about His Son's coming role.
After foretelling the things that would happen in the Last Days, he said-
Matt 24:36- But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the son, but the Father only.
No Co-equal 'Trinity'...
The Father is the One True God- Jehovah, the God of Jesus Christ!
Matt 26:63- But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou art the Christ, the Son of God. 64- Jesus said unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, henceforth ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven. 65- Then the high priest rent his garments, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy: what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard the blasphemy: 66- what think ye? They answered and said, He is worthy of death.
The Jews knew he wasn't Go, nor that he claimed to be- as shown here.
A meaningless statement if he was one of the Almighty Gods of Churchianity's Trinity Dogma...
(By the way, for those of you expecting Christ to be circling the Earth thousands of times on a
cloud- or maybe as a Giant for only hundreds, note that he said they would "see" him coming on
the clouds, from that moment ON (henceforth)!
Matt 28: [ Jesus, after being resurrected said: ] 18-And Jesus coming up spoke to them, saying, "All power has been given me in heaven and upon earth.
19-Go [therefore] and make disciples of all the nations, baptising them in the name of the Father, and of the son, and of the holy spirit; 20- teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have enjoined you. And behold, I am with you all the days, until the completion of the age. "
All Power wasn't RETURNED to Jesus, as Trinitarian dogma conjures up.
He wasn't God when in the flesh... all Power was GIVEN him!
There is that reference to the "name of" the Holy Spirit...but...
IT doesn't HAVE a "name" for us to use!
The meaning is EASILY apparent; carry out your ministry under the guidance and of God, Christ, and the Power they send us- the Holy Spirit!
Mark 1:8- I baptize you with water, but he will baptize you with the holy spirit.
9- At that time Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan.
10- Just as Jesus was coming up out of the water, he saw heaven being torn open and the spirit descending on him like a dove.
11- And a voice came from heaven: "You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased."
Now for those of us that have actually read the Bible thru many times, and have relied on this spirit to guide us-
we KNOW it to simply be, as Gabriel told Mary- "the POWER of the Most High God".
But not when we blindly believed what the Clergy taught us; that the Holy Spirit was a ...GHOST
(altho they avoid that term now- but teach the SAME THING!), a third God of the Triune Godhead...
Think on what happened. Jesus KNEW his Father- God- approved. So God both spoke, and had the
spirit SEEN for a witness to all that Jesus was the REAL Messiah- for many False ones had appeared, making that claim. Now- if God wanted all to know He and 'Them' as the Trinity- why did He have the holy spirit take the form of a DOVE, and not a person?
First- it DIDN'T; John describes it as being LIKE a dove.
That's the shape he compared this Glowing Light to; doves shimmer white in the sunlight.
Second- it WASN'T the Third God sent by the First God to the Second God! Otherwise, like angels
(and Christ after his resurrection) it WOULD have appeared in the form of a person! So,
Third- God had it manifest in this way so all could know IT WAS an IT; His Power. At pentecost it
appears "like" tongues of flame- not as little faces!
The Holy Spirit ALWAYS is manifest as POWER!
If God is/are the Supreme beings, all "Co-Equal", how do the trinnies see THIS?-
Mark 3:28 -Truly I tell you, people will be forgiven all their sins and all the blasphemies they utter.
29- But whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will never be forgiven, but is guilty of an
eternal sin."
Was Jesus saying it's less of a sin to Blaspheme him, or 'God-the -Father'?
If the Trtinity was real, and they were "co-equal", it would be the same for all 3!
In Matthew he added that their lies about himself would be forgiven too- but NOT the spirit!
Was the "Holy Ghost" the most powerful of the 3 'Gods/Beings/Persons/Natures'?
Of course not; blaspheming against the Holy Spirit was doing so against the One acting thru it:
Jehovah, the God of Jesus Christ!
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The Holy Spirit is AGAIN shown to be the POWER of God, rather than a Namelkess, Faceless 'Ghost-God':
Mark 5: 25- And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years.
26- She had suffered a great deal under the care of many doctors and had spent all she had, yet
instead of getting better she grew worse.
27- When she heard about Jesus, she came up behind him in the crowd and touched his cloak,
28- because she thought, "If I just touch his clothes, I will be healed."
29- Immediately her bleeding stopped and she felt in her body that she was freed from her suffering.
30- At once Jesus realized that >>> power <<<< had gone out from him.
He turned around in the crowd and asked, "Who touched my clothes?"
31- "You see the people crowding against you," his disciples answered, "and yet you can ask, 'Who touched me?' "
32- But Jesus kept looking around to see who had done it.
Mark 6:55- They ran throughout that whole region and carried the sick on mats to wherever they heard he was.
56- And wherever he went into villages, towns or countryside they placed the sick in the marketplaces. They begged him to let them touch even the edge of his cloak, and all who touched him were healed.
That Power was the Holy Spirit. He didn't have a fellow God do the healing. It was the POWER from God, the holy spirit that enabled him to!
Mark 8:38- If any of you are ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the son of man will be ashamed of you when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels."
In his FATHER'S glory.
The glory GIVEN him BY his Father- not in his own, as the mythical 'God-the-son'.
Jesus ALWAYS referred to his God & Father as SOMEONE ELSE!
Mark 10: 17- As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him.
"Good teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
18- "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good" except God alone."
Which ONE? A Nameless Father, or a Nameless Ghost God of CHURCHianity? And why not the 'Godman'?
Jesus was referring to the One (not THREE) that he called the "Only True God".
But that is just TOO MUCH for Trinitarians who worship their church to accept!
Mark 10:40 - but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared."
(In Matthew, he says it's God- who decides. No Trinity.)
Mark 11:7- And they brought the colt to Jesus, and cast their garments on him; and he sat upon him.
8-And many spread their garments in the way: and others cut down branches off the trees, and strawed them in the way.
9-And they that went before, and they that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna; Blessed is he that cometh
in the name of the Lord [Jehovah- the Koine Greek had no version of it] :
10- Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord [Jehovah- the Koine Greek had no version of it]: Hosanna in the highest.
In this example; they cry praises from the Psalms ("name of Jehovah", not "the LORD" in Hebrew)
referring to Jesus as being FROM God... NOT from Himself/Themselves.
"Hosanna, " : "Praise God and his Messiah, we are saved."
(Not 'God-the-Messiah')
THIS is what Jesus taught the Jews as to who he REALLY was-
Mark 12: 1- Jesus then began to speak to them in parables:
"A man planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a pit for the winepress and built a watchtower.
Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and moved to another place.
2- At harvest time he sent a servant to the tenants to collect from them some of the fruit of
the vineyard.
3- But they seized him, beat him and sent him away empty-handed.
4 Then he sent another servant to them; they struck this man on the head and treated him shamefully.
5- He sent still another, and that one they killed. He sent many others; some of them they beat, others they killed.
6- "He had one left to send, a son, whom he loved. He sent - him last of all, saying, 'They will
respect my son.'
7- But the tenants said to one another, 'This is the heir. Come, let's kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.'
8- So they took him and killed him, and threw him out of the vineyard.
9 - What then will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and kill those tenants and give the vineyard
to others.
They didn't kill the OWNER, but killed his son. CHURCHianity claims they 'killed' one of three Owners (or One of Them!
Mark 12: 29 -"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this:
'Hear, O Israel: Jehovah [ the Koine Greek used "LORD"since it had no version of God's Name yet] your God, the Lord is one."[...NOT "three"]
Mark 13:32 - But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,
but only the Father.
33- Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come.
Is a 'Trinity' seen HERE?
Did Jesus forget the God-Ghost'?
No; there's two different beings: God and His son.
Does this sound like the Almighty 'God-the-Son', a 2nd God of a 'Trinity'?
Mark 14:35- Going a little farther, he fell to the ground and prayed that if possible the hour might pass from him.
36- "Abba, Father," he said, "everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will."
The Almighty God praying to ANOTHER Almighty God to change His Almighty Mind?
How perverse the Trinity Dogma (of Catholic Origin) is!
Lately, Trinitarians have used the excuse that the Pharisees claim that Jesus was claiming himself to be God as 'proof' of the UnHoly Trinity Dogma; anyone wanting truth can easily see thru that by reading just how honest the Pharisees were-
Mark 14:55- The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death, but they did not find any.
56- Many testified falsely against him, but their statements did not agree.
57- Then some stood up and gave this false testimony against him:
58- "We heard him say, 'I will destroy this temple made with human hands and in three days will build another, not made with hands.' "
59- Yet even then their testimony did not agree.
60 -Then the high priest stood up before them and asked Jesus,
"Are you not going to answer? What is this testimony that these men are bringing against you?"
61- But Jesus remained silent and gave no answer.
Again the high priest asked him, "Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?"
62- "I am," said Jesus. "And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty
One and coming on the clouds of heaven."
63- The high priest tore his clothes. "Why do we need any more witnesses?" he asked.
64- "You have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?" They all condemned him as worthy of death.
65- Then some began to spit at him; they blindfolded him, struck him with their fists, and said, "Prophesy!"
And the guards took him and beat him.
Yes, the Churches chose a fine example for support...and they do the same to Christ as these Jewish Clergy did- with their Doctrine!
A moment before dying on stake (or cross), Jesus cried out to the TRUE God- HIS God-
Mark 15:34- And at three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?"
(which means "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?").
Jesus knew why, so this was exasperation. He died after these words.
God did not die that day, crying out to two OTHER Gods!
His SON did.
Mark 16:19- After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. 20- Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.
The Right Hand of GOD.
Not at the Right Hand of Himself or 'Themselves'!
The distinction is ALWAYS made between God and Christ...
The Book of Luke opens with an interesting perspective of what the holy spirit REALLY is:
Luke 1:13- But the angel said to him: "Do not be afraid, Zechariah;
your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to call him John.
14- He will be a joy and delight to you, and many will rejoice because of his birth,
15- for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink,
and he will be filled with the holy spirit even before he is born.
Now, does this make sense with the view held by NEARLY EVERY CHURCH that the Holy Spirit is really a Ghost-God? Would 'He' be possessing an EMBYRIO??? Did the Almighty (or 'C0-Almighties') become a "God-the-Fetus"?
The Holy Spirit is, as referred to by Gabriel and Paul "the POWER of God".
That POWER is what has filled servants of God- not a Ghost-God.
As in Matt 1:19, we see:
Luke 1:34- "How will this be," Mary asked the angel, "since I am a virgin?"
35- The angel answered, "The holy spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the son of God.
Holy Spirit / POWER of the Most High.
No Ghost-God member of a Trinity.
Luke 3:21- When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as he was praying, heaven was opened 22- and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven:
"You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased."
God speaks to Jesus as a witness to those watching, and sends His holy spirit in a form they could ALSO understand; not in Human Form, as angels used to appear, not as God did in visions as a Glowing human form,
neither as Christ himself after later being resurrected - in Human Form, for it is NOT a Being!
No- once again it appears as a Glowing Light ("LIKE" a Dove that flashes brightly in sunlight)
Trinitarians see, instead, God #1 speaking and sending God #3 to possess God #2.
It JUST ISN'T THERE!
Think and pray as to what is REALLY shown here, and remember how the Holy Spirit was described
to Mary by Gabriel: "POWER of the Most High will overshadow you".
Luke 2:27-And he came in the spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, that they
might do concerning him after the custom of the law...
Did he come inside of a Ghost-God, or with the power of God?
Luke 2:40- And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
Was he strong when inside of a Ghost-God or strong because of the POWER, the breath of God- the holy spirit?
Luke 4:1- Jesus, full of the holy spirit, left the Jordan and was led by the spirit into the wilderness.
Was Jesus FULL of a God-Person?
Possessed by a spirit?
God #1 in Heaven, Ghost-God #3 possessing God #2?
Or was Jesus FILLED with "the POWER of the Most High", that is always SEEN as a Power, as well?
Luke 4:5- The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of
the world.
6- And he said to him, "I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to.
7- If you worship me, it will all be yours."
8- Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Worship the Lord ["Jehovah in the original books he quoted] your God and serve him only.'
Satan would NEVER ask God to worship Him (and who do you think GAVE it to him, and Jesus directed Satan TO God, quoting His Word.
Also, offering God what He already had would be NO incentive to worship a created being.
Satan was tempting God's SON, NOT God Himself, no 'God-the-Son'.
Luke 4: 14- Jesus returned to Galilee in the power of the spirit, and news about him spread through the whole countryside.
15- He was teaching in their synagogues, and everyone praised him.
Not "Jesus returned with the Ghost-God giving God-the-Son power"...
There's that WORD again: POWER.
Luke 6:19 - and the people all tried to touch him, because power was coming from him and healing them all.
Again, the holy spirit he was filled with is referred to as POWER! (No "Ghost" was possessing Jesus, or flowing through him.)
As mentioned in Matthew- this account shows, again, that the holy spirit filling Christ was no "GHOST", but "POWER of the Most High"-
Lk 8:43- And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years, but no one could heal her.
44- She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and immediately her bleeding stopped.
45- "Who touched me?" Jesus asked. When they all denied it, Peter said, "Master, the people are crowding and pressing against you."
46- But Jesus said, "Someone touched me; I know that power has gone out from me."
By the way- without the mythical Ghost-God, the Trinity is also without a "leg to stand on"!
Lk 10: 21- At that time Jesus, full of joy through the holy spirit, said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.
22- "All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the son and those to whom the son chooses to reveal him."
How can you fit '3 Co-Equal God Persons' into this?
Lk 11:20- But if I drive out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
Jesus refers to the Spirit as the "Finger" of God- NOT as a Fellow God!
Luke 22:67- "If you are the Messiah," they said, "tell us." Jesus answered, "If I tell you, you will not believe me,
68- and if I asked you, you would not answer.
69- But from now on, the son of man will be seated at the right hand of the mighty God."
Again, Jesus is referring to someone ELSE as God, in who he is the right hand man'.
No Ghost-God sitting at God's LEFT.
Oh where, O where can the Trinity be?
Oh where, o where can it BE?
Lk 23:46 - Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.
Did God die...or His Son?
Was Jesus offering God the Father....God the Ghost? 'Immortal soul'?
Or his LIFE?
Luke 24:29- I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.
The holy spirit is POWER from God, not a 1/3 Ghost-God!
John- the First Chapter!
The Desperate Raft (with a leak) that churchoids try to stay afloat in!
John 1:1- In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
[They try to ignore that he was "WITH" God- for that means he wasn't LITERALLY God.
Moses, too, was "God"- Ex 7:1-"I have made thee God to Pharaoh"- Darby]
The "Word" here means Spokesman- one who SPOKE for God as the context clearly shows.
2- The same was in the beginning with God.
3- All things were made through him; and
[Notice "THROUGH" him?]
without him was not anything made that hath been made.
10- He was in the world, and the world was made through him, and the world knew him not.
14- And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full
of grace and truth.
[Note he says they SAW him- compare with the next verse!]
18- No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
> Many thousands saw Jesus!
John 1:33- And I myself did not know him, but the one who sent me to baptize with water told me,
The man on whom you see the spirit come down and remain is the one who will baptize with the holy spirit.
34- I have seen and I testify that this is God's Chosen One.
Not God.
Not 'God-the-Son'.
God's Chosen one!
(And no 'Holy Ghost'!)
35- The next day John was there again with two of his disciples.
36 -When he saw Jesus passing by, he said, �Look, the Lamb of God!�
Not, "Look! It's GOD!" , nor, "Look! It's God-the Lamb!", not 'God-the-Son'!
The Lamb >>> OF <<< God.
John 1:49- Then Nathanael declared, "Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel."
NOT "Rabbi, you are God-the-Son; you are the king of Israel."
NOT "Rabbi, you are God; you are the king of Israel!"
EVERY Jew knew what a "son" was!
John 2:13- When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
14- In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money.
15- So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the
money changers and overturned their tables.
16- To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father's house into a market!"
Not "MY House!"
And EVERY Jew knew what a father is!
He was FURIOUS over how they had defiled his God's TEMPLE!
True WORSHIP!
John 2:19-Jesus answered them, "Destroy this TEMPLE, and I will raise
it again in three days."
Jesus said he would "raise the Temple"
in three days, and WAS referring
to his body.... but FAR, FAR MORE: the True Worship
he was establishing, that the Jewish Clergy werte trying to stop!
Trinitarians latch onto that saying:
"See he resurrected himself- that proves he's God!"
They never THINK: How can Jesus RESURRECT himself...if ALIVE?
They never THINK: How can Jesus RESURRECT himself...if DEAD?
First, Jesus ISN'T God- as we see him making perfectly clear
in all his teachings.
Second, the scriptures repeatedly say GOD resurrected him.
So what did he mean?
His words here make it clear:
John 10:17- The reason my Father loves
me is that I lay down my life--
only to take it up again.
18- No one takes it from me, but I lay
it down of my own accord. I have
AUTHORITY to lay it down and
AUTHORITY to take it up again. This
COMMAND I received from my Father."
By dying as the Ransom- it GUARANTEED
his resurrection- by his Father- the
only TRUE God, who commanded it would be so.
Over and over, the REST of the Bible shows that it was his God & Father who brought
him back to life, such as~
Heb 13:20- Now may the God of peace, who through the blood of
the eternal covenant brought back from the dead our Lord Jesus,
John 3:1- Now there was a Pharisee, a man named Nicodemus who was a member of the Jewish ruling council.
2- He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God.
For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him."
Jesus didn't correct him- how COULD he, when it was true!
Jesus came >>> FROM <<< God!
God Himself ('Themselves' in the Trinity Dogma) didn't come- but God had SENT him.
John 3:16- For God so loved the world that He gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
17- For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
18- Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have
not believed in the name of God's one and only son.
Always quoted by the churches- never believed- for they believe God HIMSELF came to Earth!
By saying there are 3 Gods, and One of Them came and pretended to die for us, they contradict EVERYTHING above...
As well as the ENTIRE Bible.
It does NOT read "For God so loved the world that he gave HIMSELF".
Nor That God #1 & 3 sent God #2!
The Only-Begotten Son of God is
the term God chose to enable
all to easily understand that of
all the "sons of God"
(called 'angels') there
is only ONE that is special,
being born/receiving life directly
from Him.
His Son later was used by God to
make all things, not living AND
living- including the rest of the
messengers, the mighty spirit
beings- the angels.
(NOT winged babies)
Let's continue on our quest to
see who the "Only True God" is,
as Christ called Him, OR to find
the Supreme Beings of
Trinitarian Myth!
No CNP from Watchtowers-
just the Bible!
John 3:34- For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the spirit without limit.
35- The Father loves the son and has placed everything in his hands.
36- Whoever believes in the son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them.
Notice how, as ALWAYS God is spoken of as someone ELSE- NOT JESUS?
Notice how, as ALWAYS God is spoken of as GIVING spirit'?
John 4:22- You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
23- Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for they
are the kind of worshippers the Father seeks.
24- God is spirit [or "a" spirit] , and his worshippers must worship in spirit and truth."
Notice how Jesus SAID that?
We MUST worship so!
And GOD is referred to as BEING "spirit" (meaning a being of Invisible Force; not flesh and blood.)
"Breath, Wind" in Hebrew & Greek).
John 5:16- So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute him.
17- In his defense Jesus said to them, "My Father is always at His work to this very day, and I too am working."
18- For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God
his own Father, making himself equal with God.
(That is how they took his words- JUST as Churchianity does ; did he confirm or deny it?
Pay attention to his answer!)
19- Jesus gave them this answer:
"Very truly I tell you, the Son can do NOTHING by himself; he can do ONLY what he sees his Father doing,
because whatever the Father does the son also does.
[Does that sound like Jesus is Supreme? Almighty?
JESUS illustrates how he had to follow the direction of his God and Father]
20- For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does.
Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed.
21- For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it.
22- Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the son.
[Notice Christ said he was ENTRUSTED with judgement? It is NOT something he HAD- it was GIVEN to him.]
23- that all may honor the son even as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the son does not honor the Father, who sent him.
26- For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the son also to have life in himself.
Notice Christ said he was GRANTED to have life in himself?
It. too, is something he did NOT have, the Trinity Dogma states the three 'Persons' are 'co-equal'; we
not only never SEE such a group of Supreme Beings, but are shown that the son is NOT equal with the Father!
27- And he has given him authority to judge because he is the son of man.
[The Jewish clergy well knew Daniel's Prophecy of the son of man- one CHOSEN by God to be the King of Kings!- Dan 7)
Does THIS sound like a 'God-the-Son'?
Or the Son of God?-
John 5: 30 - By myself I can do nothing; judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to
please myself but Him who sent me.
31- "If I testify about myself, my testimony is not true.
36 - "I have testimony weightier than that of John. For the works that the Father has given me to finish�the very
works that I am doing testify that the Father has sent me.
37- And the Father who sent me has Himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor
seen his form.
Even JESUS confirms God HASN'T been SEEN ( as he once was),
and refers to God as a separate entity. CHURCHianity claims they are the same...
John 5:38- nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one He sent.
39- You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you possess eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that
testify about me,
[WAIT! The scriptures "TESTIFY?" why that must mean they are a Person, too, since the holy spirit "testifies"!]
42- but I know you. I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts.
44- How CAN you believe since you accept glory from one another but do NOT seek the glory that comes from the only God?
"The ONLY God!" yet Churchianity claims there are THREE!
Jesus denied being God IN DETAIL, so that there would be no REAL question about it- but the Jewish clergy continued with their false
accusations, and churchoid clergy with their false dogma that insults God and Christ!
John 6:28- Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"
29- Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
"The one He has sent".
So easy to understand- if you WANT to.
God SENT someone.
He did NOT come Himself!
John 6:37- All whom the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away.
38- For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of Him who sent me.
39- And this is the will of Him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those He has given me,
but raise them up at the last day.
40- For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will
raise them up at the last day."
41- At this the Jews there began to grumble about him because he said, "I am the bread that came down from heaven."
42- They said, "Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say,
'I came down from heaven'?"
43 -"Stop grumbling among yourselves," Jesus answered.
44- "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.
45- It is written in the Prophets: 'They will all be taught by God.' Everyone who has heard the Father and learned
from Him comes to me.
46- No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father.
Mad: Can the Supreme Being be "sent" by someone else? Of COURSE not!
NO ONE commands the Supreme Being; HE is the One who does the sending!
Thousands saw Jesus- NO ONE has seen God!
John 7: 16- Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from the One who sent me.
17- Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own.
18- Whoever speaks on their own does so to gain personal glory, but he who seeks the glory of the One who sent him is a man of truth;
there is nothing false about him.
19- Has not Moses given you the law? Yet not one of you keeps the law. Why are you trying to kill me?"
Does this sound like the Almighty God with all Authority and Power to YOU?
After conquering the World with his faith, it was GIVEN to him- he never HAD it to begin with.
Jesus was the Ultimate Messenger (Angel) of God- the One who SENT him- the One who TOLD Christ what to do!
John 7:18- Whoever speaks on their own does so to gain personal glory, but he who seeks the glory of the One who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him.
This verse really stands out in that Christ could NOT be God since he came to speak for his Father (and God) and NOT himself.
He was not looking for "personal glory" but the glory of "the one who sent him".
It also makes it clear that if Jesus "was God" LITERALLY then he DID seek his own glory and thus NOT be a man of truth, but a hypocrite.
John 8: 14- Jesus answered, "Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. 15- You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one.
16- But if I do judge, my decisions are true, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me.
17- In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true.
18- I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me."
Is therfe yet ANOTHER "witness"? A GHOST?
No. STILL no God-the-Ghost seen...
John 8:25- "Who are you?" they asked.
[Did Jesus say I AM? I AM God?]
"Just what I have been telling you from the beginning," Jesus replied.
26- "I have much to say in judgment of you. But He who sent me is trustworthy, and what I have heard from Him I tell the world."
27- They did not understand that he was telling them about his Father.
28- So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the son of Man, then you will know that I am he and that I do
NOTHING on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.
29 -The One who sent me is with me; He has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases Him."
30- Even as he spoke, many put their faith in him.
Over and over he showed who the True God WAS- yet CHURCHianity has ignored him for almost 2,000 years!
Now for a mis-translation DELIBERATELY made by EVERY translation I've ever seen- except
our NWT. They take the Greek term "ego eimi", and choose "I am", out of the many ways the phrase is translated in different places-
such as "I have been", "I was", and "it is I" nd more.
MANY times thruout the New
And then, in ONE SPOT ONLY, capitalize it as "I AM" to give the impression that Christ was referring to the ancient HEBREW
Name God used only ONE TIME - and they know know IT wasn't "I AM" now- Hebrew scholars saying it likely means "I shall Prove to Be",
or even "I will BE there"!~
To clearly lay this deception to rest- follow the WHOLE conversation, and choose for YOURSELF which phrase SHOULD have been used to
accurately convey what Christ said~
John 8:39- "Abraham is our father," they answered. "If you were Abraham's children,"
said Jesus, "then you would do what Abraham did.
40- As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God.
Abraham did not do such things.
41-You are doing the works of your own father."
"We are not illegitimate children," they protested. "The only Father we have is God himself."
42 -Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here.
I have not come on my own; but He sent me.
43- Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say.
44- You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires.
He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies,
he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
45- Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
46- Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, WHY don't you believe me?
47- Whoever belongs to God HEARS what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."
48- The Jews answered him, "Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?"
49- "I am not possessed by a demon," said Jesus, "but I honor my Father and you dishonor ME.
50- I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is One who seeks it, and he is the judge.
51- Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death."
52- At this they exclaimed, "Now we know that you are demon-possessed! Abraham died and so did the prophets,
yet you say that whoever obeys your word will never taste death.
53- Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?"
54- Jesus replied, "If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the One who glorifies me.
55- Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and obey his word.
56- Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad."
57- "You are not yet fifty years old," they said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!"
58- "Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I was!"
[My insertion: all other translations deceptively put "AM"]
59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.
["Ego Eimi" was used by Gabriel, John, Paul, Peter, Timothy, etc...
( Matt 26:25- And Judas, who was betraying Him, said, "Surely it is not I [ ego eimi] , Rabbi?� Jesus said to him,
�You have said it yourself.�
Judas used the EXACT WORDS Jesus did at John 8:58, where translators deceive churchoids into thinking the ancient symbolic
HEBREW name God used only ONE TIME was being used!)
Jesus had just run out those setting up a scam in the TEMPLE-
John2:15- And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them
all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out
the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
16- And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make
not my Father's house an house of merchandise.
He was FURIOUS over how they had defiled his God's TEMPLE!
True WORSHIP!
John 2:19-Jesus answered them, "Destroy this TEMPLE, and I will raise
it again in three days."
Jesus said he would "raise the Temple"
in three days, and WAS referring
to his body.... but FAR, FAR MOREas well: the True Worship
he was establishing, that the Jewish Clergy were trying to stop!
Trinitarians latch onto that saying:
"See he resurrected himself- that proves he's God!"
They never THINK: How can Jesus RESURRECT himself...if ALIVE?
They never THINK: How can Jesus RESURRECT himself...if DEAD?
First, Jesus ISN'T God- as we see him making perfectly clear
in all his teachings.
Second, the scriptures repeatedly say GOD resurrected him.
So what did he mean?
His words here make it clear:
John 10:17- The reason my Father loves
me is that I lay down my life
only to take it up again.
18- No one takes it from me, but I lay
it down of my own accord. I have
AUTHORITY to lay it down and
AUTHORITY to take it up again. This
COMMAND I received from my Father.
By dying as the Ransom- it GUARANTEED
his resurrection- by his Father- the
only TRUE God, who commanded it would be so.
Jesus 'raised' himself by dying for us all!
John 4:23- But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth,
for such the Father seeks to worship him.
24- God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
Why didn't Jesus say to worship 'Himself'?
Why didn't Jesus say to worship a 'Holy Ghost'?
Did he say we must worship God INSIDE a 'Holy Ghost'- or does "spirit" really refer to the power of the one whom is being referred to?
John 10:12- He who is a hireling and not a shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees;
and the wolf snatches them and scatters them. 13- He flees because he is a hireling and cares nothing for the sheep.
14- I am the good shepherd; I know my own and my own know me,
15- as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my >>> LIFE <<<< [NOT just the body!] for the sheep.
16- And I have other sheep [ Gentiles/Future disciples ] , that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. So there shall be one flock, one shepherd.
17 For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life, that I may take it again.
18- No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again; this authority I have received from my Father.
2 Cor 5:15- And he died for all, that those who live might live no longer for themselves but for him who for their sake died and was raised.
JESUS died- NOT just his body. GOD never died- but JESUS did.
The infamous spin of the clergy 'proving' Christ to be God:
John 10: 22- Then came the Festival of Dedication at Jerusalem. It was winter,
23- and Jesus was in the temple courts walking in Solomon's Colonnade.
24- The Jews who were there gathered around him, saying, "How long will
you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly."
25- Jesus answered, "I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in
my Father's name testify about me,
26- but you do not believe because you are not my sheep.
27- My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
28- I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch
them out of my hand.
29- My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can
snatch them out of my Father's hand.
30- I and the Father are one."
It's just COMICAL! They teach they are different persons- yet claim this PROVES Jesus is God Almighty!
A man at the door did- and I asked him if that meant Jesus was also the Father.
He said Jesus said it, and closed the door!
It's MADNESS!
Adam and Eve were one, many husbands and wives are, real Christians are one with God and Christ (John 17)
Even Trinnies know Jesus ISN'T the Father- but still stick to that ploy!
Notice how Jesus denies their pretense; their false charge-
John 10: 31- Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them,
"I have shown you many good works from the Father.
For which of these do you stone me?"
33- "We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for
blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
34- Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are
"gods" '?
35- If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came�and Scripture
cannot be broken�
36 -what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent
into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said,
'I am God's Son'?
37- Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.
38- But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works,
that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the
Father."
39- Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.
HMMMMM! Clergy (like the Pharisees) say Jesus IS God Almighty.
Jesus himself denied it, saying he was His SON, instead.
WHICH should we believe??????????????
John 11:41- So they took away the stone. Then Jesus
looked up and said, "Father, I thank you that you have
heard me.
42- I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for
the benefit of the people standing here, that they may
believe that you sent me."
Jesus was praying to the One he referred to as "God",
and "MY God", thanking Him for working thru him.
He wasn't talking to any 'God-the-Ghost'- he was praying to his God and Father- Jehovah!
John 12: 12- The next day the great crowd that had come for
the Festival heard that Jesus was on his way to Jerusalem.
13- They took palm branches and went out to meet him, shouting, "Hosanna! "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!"
[Ps 118:25- Save now, we beseech thee, O Jehovah: O Jehovah, we beseech thee, send now prosperity.
26- Blessed be he that cometh in the name of Jehovah: We have blessed you out of the house of Jehovah. - ASV]
"Blessed is the king of Israel!"
14- Jesus found a young donkey and sat on it, as it is written:
15- "Do not be afraid, Daughter Zion; see, your king is coming,
seated on a donkey's colt."
16- At first his disciples did not understand all this. Only after
Jesus was glorified did they realize that these things had
been written about him and that these things had been
done to him.
Coming in someone's Name simply means that you are
representing, and speaking for that other person and/or doing things with the others permission or authority.
Christ said he was doing that for another Person: God. His Father.
"Immanuel"= With Us is God
"Jesus"=Salvation of Jehovah
Highlite this- as all of Christ's words do.
It is Churchianity and their deceptive dogmas, like the Trinity
Dogma that makes all these endless references twisted and meaningless.
Most Trinitarians I've spoken to say "Jehovah" is another Name of Jesus, as they claim of "I AM".
Yet they ALL belittle it, usually using the excuse of pronounciation...
I wonder how they try to make sense of what Christ says next:
John 12: 27- "Now my soul is troubled, and what shall I say? 'Father, save me from this hour'? No, it was
for this very reason I came to this hour.
28- Father, glorify your name!" Then a voice came from heaven, "I have glorified it, and will glorify it again."
29- The crowd that was there and heard it said it had thundered; others said an angel had spoken to him.
The 'Name' Jesus made known was NOT "LORD"!
John 12:44- Then Jesus cried out, "Those who believe in me do not believe in me only, but in the One who sent me.
ONE...but Churchinaity says all THREE are "One"- and why does he not refer to the 'Holy-GhostGod'?
Aaaaaand Jesus yet AGAIN makes the CLEAREST distinction between them both!
45- When they look at me, they see the one who sent me.
[As when he said "I and the Father are one", and "when you've seen me, you've seen the Father"!]
49- For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me COMMANDED me to say all that I have spoken.
50 -I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has TOLD me to say."
Even small children EASILY see what Christ meant here: he is just like his Father- God!
In addition- NO ONE can COMMAND God and tell HIM what to do!
Only churchoids are gullible enough to see Jesus claiming to be God in those words- AND, it would
mean Jesus is ALSO the Father, sending Himself, talking to Himself- and more. Deterioration spirals rapidly, at that point!
How much plainer could it have been written????
Here we AGAIN see God referred to as another entity separate from Christ-
John 13:2- The evening meal was in progress, and the devil had already prompted Judas, the son of Simon
Iscariot, to betray Jesus.
3- Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power, and that he had come from
God and was returning to God;
4- so he got up from the meal, took off his outer clothing, and wrapped a towel around his waist.
5- After that, he poured water into a basin and began to wash his disciples' feet, drying them with the towel
that was wrapped around him.
HMMMM! If the Trinity were REAL, don't you think it
would READ a LITTLE different?
" God-the-Son always had this power, and was about
to return to his Fellow Gods"? maybe?
AGAIN-
John 14:1-Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me.
COMPLETELY meaningless if he WERE God.
He would have said, then "Trust in me- for I am God!"
Trinitarians whine that when Jesus said " I and the Father are One",
and "when you've seen me, you've seen the Father"- that it 'proves'
Jesus is God...so it's been said for almost 2,000 years!
All I ask is HOW?
Is Jesus the Father?
Or (Gasp!) does it mean they think alike, and work together in perfect harmony?
Judge for yourself as we next read-
John 14:5- Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?"
6- Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
7- If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."
8- Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
9- Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone
who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
10- Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not
speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
11 -Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the
evidence of the works themselves.
12- Very truly I tell you, all who have faith in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do
even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
13 -And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Jesus wanted to let his followers know they would STILL have guidance after he was put to death.
He tells them they would be sent an "advocate/Comforter/helper"-"the Spirit of Truth"!
Here is the main scripture that Trinitarians see the latter- and it IS easy to see a Ghost, if one has not read all the other
details of the Holy Spirit in the Bible.
So what do YOU see- Guidance Personified, Christ's spirit- or
a Holy-Ghost-God?
John 14:16-And I will pray to the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17-Even the spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know
him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18-I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19-Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20-At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21-He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved
of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Was Jesus referring to a Fellow 'God-Person', the 'Holy Ghost' of Churchianity?
Remember: The greek word translated as "spirit" literally means "wind or breath" illustrating and unseen force/power,
thus Gabriel referred to it as "the Power of the Most High" (God).
Note the context: Jesus DEFINED it! "The Breath of Truth", saying that he would be IN his followers, and that they would be loved
by his God and Father who SENDS His breath (spirit) of truth!
Jesus said the same thing in different ways, after he was resurrected;
1- Matt 28:18- And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
19- Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the
Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20- teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, >>> I am with you always,
even to the end of the age." <<<
2- Acts 1:8- But you will receive power when the holy spirit [spirit of truth] comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem,
and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."
When Jesus said "in the name of..." he WASN'T talking about the 3 trinitarian Gods and their Names- for the Holy Spirit HAS no name,
no personality, AND it is often CALLED "IT" by both God, Christ, and bible writers.
We are not possessed by a Ghost; there is no Being living inside us speaking to us, making us do things!
Yet we always FEEL the COMFORT, the POWER that comes from God's Holy Spirit- the force He uses to carry out His will- and that is
why Jesus refers to IT as a "he" sometimes- for he always is conscience of the One who is SENDIN G it- his God, his Father-
Jehovah!
John 15:1 -I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener.
2- He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful.
3- You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.
4- Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
5- I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.
6- If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.
[Fire- used to portray DESTRUCTION]
7- If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.
8- This is to my Father's glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.
9- As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love.
10- If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commands and remain in his love.
11- I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete.
12- My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.
13- Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends.
[Churchianity teaches Jesus never did!]
14- You are my friends if you do what I command.
15- I no longer call you servants, because servants do not know their master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
16- You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you
so that you might go and bear fruit�fruit that will last�and
so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you.
17- This is my command: Love each other.
So we see yet more about the Comfort Jesus would send them/us; Jesus himself "remains" in us; not like a demon-possession of old, but in spirit, and THRU Holy Spirit.
We can always see in Jesus words the fact that his Father is his God- the Supreme Being- not the Imaginary 3-in-One 'Co-Equal Cartoon Triad of Churchianity!
John 15:25- But this cometh to pass, that the word may be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
26- But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the spirit [breath] of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he [Greek ekinose*] shall bear witness of me:
27- and ye also bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.
* Ekinos meaning in Strong's Exhaustive Concordance : he, it, the other, that very
Translated according to interpreters opinion.
"it [Greek ekinose*] shall bear witness of me" will fit the REST of the Bible, since it has no name or face (never seen in visions of God), is poured out, fills people, is divided into portions- and was even up Job's Nose!
Job 27:3- All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils...
When Jesus referred to it as "Comforter" he WASN'T talking about a
Ghost-God; there is no Being living/possessing us speaking thru us, making us do things!
Yet we always FEEL it!
John 16: 1-All this I have told you so that you will not fall away.
2- They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the hour is coming when those who kill you will think they are offering
a service to God.
3- They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me.
This is a thoughtful reference for several reasons.
Unlike his brief reference to the holy spirit in chapter 15, he NEVER speaks of the spirit as he does his God & Father.
He NEVER prays or honors it, never speaks of the "3" of them together, never encourages any to honor, or worship it.
Here, as he ALWAYS does, he talks about God as a separate PERSON completely. (Not "a service to ME, Us, the Holy Ghost" )
AND it shows why so many churchoids are so fanatic- they THINK they are honoring their 3 Gods by their actions!
Is THIS proof that the Holy Spirit is a PERSON? The Ghost-God?
Sure LOOKS that way-
John 16: 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth: It is expedient for
you that I go away; for if I go not away, the Comforter will
not come unto you; but if I go, I will send him unto you.
8- And he, when he is come, will convict the world in respect
of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9- of sin, because they believe not on me;
10- of righteousness, because I go to the Father, and ye behold
me no more;
11- of judgment, because the prince of this world hath been judged.
12- I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear
them now.
13- Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he shall guide
you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself;
but what things soever he shall hear, these shall he speak:
and he shall declare unto you the things that are to come.
14- He shall glorify me: for he shall take of mine, and shall
declare it unto you.
15- All things whatsoever the Father hath are mine: therefore
said I, that he taketh of mine, and shall declare it unto you.
Checking the Greek for "he shall speak,etc"- I was surprised to
find that it was translated from the Greek "IT shall be leading, talking, etc.".
So it demonstrates that what the translator THINKS the Spirit is
FLAVORS how he translates the Greek thought.
However, the bottom line is, and always WILL be to a true
Christian- what the Bible says.
As noted, there has been much shown- as has been covered- and
even more coming, as we look verse- by- verse in our journey
thru the Bible towards Revelation!
John 16:25-Though I have been speaking figuratively, a
time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of
language but will tell you plainly about my Father.
26- In that day you will ask in my name. I am not saying
that I will ask the Father on your behalf.
27- No, the Father himself loves you because you have
loved me and have believed that I came from God.
28- I came from the Father and entered the world; now
I am leaving the world and going back to the Father."
GASP?...
WHAT??? Jesus came FROM God???
Isn't he supposed to BE God, according to the endless
Trinitarians????
John 17:1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:
"Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.
2- For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life
to all those you have given him.
3- Now this is eternal life: that they know you,
the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
NOTE: JESUS said his FATHER was the ONLY TRUE GOD.
This ONE QUOTE by ITSELF COMPLETELY destroys the false
dogma of the Trinity! 5:44- How CAN you believe since you accept glory from one another but do NOT seek the glory that comes from the only God?
John 17:4- I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave
me to do.
5- And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you
before the world began.
Trinitarians sometimes latch on to this, saying he was God before
becoming man, and temporarily gave up godhood....Where does it ever
say anything like that?
Please SHOW me! Is that too much to ask?
It DOES tell us that he was God's Spokesman (Word). And since men are
described by God as a little lower than the angels, it is clear that just being
in Heaven was Glory- then being alonside God as the Word- and given the
honor to make all creation, as directed by his Father- it's plain to
see what he was REALLY referring to without inserting vile clergy-thoughts
into scripture!
John 17:6- I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.
7 -Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you.
8- For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.
9- I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours.
10- All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them.
11- I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.
20 - I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word;
21- that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.
So, another Trini-tactic dissolves in smoke; from these words, it is CLEAR that when Jesus said he and his Father were One- he wasn't talking Identity!
And notice the reference to the Name of God?
Just because later copyists removed it, it doesn't destroy it: Jehovah (Yehovah)!
John 17:22- And the glory which You gave me I have given them, that they may be one
just as we are one:
23 I in them, and You in me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that
the world may know that You have sent me, and have loved them as You have loved me.
24 Father, I desire that they also whom You gave me may be with Me where
I am, that they may behold my glory which You have given me; for You loved
me before the foundation of the world.
25 O righteous Father! The world has not known You, but I have known You;
and these have known that You sent me.
26-- And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love
with which You loved me may be in them, and I in them.
Again, the unity of Christ with is Father is shown (Not the Trinitarian fairy Tale of a 3-in-One God), and a reference to the Name of God, removed by most
copyists, Translators- and Clergy- respected only by those He draws to Him!
Also, remember how the Trinnies always quote Jesus saying "I and the Father are ONE" as 'proof' of their of their 'Triune Godhead'?
It quickly shrivels up in view of Jesus says HIS FOLLOWERS are One--- JUST as THEY are!
Immediately after being resurrected:
John 20:17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to my Father;
but go to my brethren and say to them, "I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God."
Churchoids completely ignore Jesus' words here.
They KNOW a Supreme Being can't be under ANOTHER Supreme Being!
And they TEACH that their 3 God-Beings are each God, but not 3 Gods!
So no 'GodJesus' was praying to 2 OTHER Gods, nor to 'Himself', or even 'THEMSELVES'!
He was praying to his GOD!
Holy Spirit ("Breath, Wind" in Hebrew and Greek)
John 20:21 So Jesus said to them again, "Peace to you! As the Father has sent me, I also send you."
22- And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them,"Receive the holy spirit.
23- If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."
No possession of a Ghost; they received POWER- the word always associated with the Holy Spirit from God!
John 20:24 Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came.
25- The other disciples therefore said to him,"We have seen the Lord." So he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails,
and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe."
26 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst,
and said, "Peace to you!"
27 Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.�
28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"
29 Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
Faith had DEVASTATED; His "Messiah" brutally killed, this man appeared claiming to BE Jesus- but he didn't LOOK the same...
He told him to feel his hands, and as he did, saw the nail wounds- and FELT them!
Euphoric shock overwhelmed him, crying out " My Lord and My God!", overwhelmed to realise it WAS Jesus, and that God HAD resurrected him!
Christ would have CORRECTED Thomas, if he had applied BOTH titles to him- for remember, he had just appeared to Mary Magdalene,
saying "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your
Father; and to MY God, and your God. "
Thomas had praised them BOTH; the One he knew was the Messiah, and the One who resurrected him- the Almighty!
The ONLY way Thomas might have applied both titles to him would be if he became an apostate, and like churchoids,
ignored what Jesus said and taught...
John 21:19-This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God.
Not glorify himself.
Notice that God is ALWAYS spoken of as One separate from Christ.
And that the holy spirit is never referred to as BEING God, and rarely mentioned AT ALL!
AND, that, contrary to Churchianity, Jesus DID die?
Acts 1:1- In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and to teach
2- until the day he was taken up to heaven, after giving instructions through the holy spirit to the apostles he had chosen.
3- After his suffering, he presented himself to them and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days and
spoke about the kingdom of God.
4- On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command:
"Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.
5- For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the holy spirit."
Now, put Tradition aside, and MEDITATE on what's said here; is the holy spirit a GHOST? Are they to be BAPTISED in a GHOST?
Or, is it referring to the "Power of the Most High", as the spirit was described by Gabriel? The Apostles never had a Ghost-God materialize and give them instruction,
but were being directed by the Power of God to do so.
AND, notice what the 'Gospel' Jesus preached was about?
Acts 1:6- So when they met together, they asked him, "Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?"
7- He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.
8- But you will receive POWER when the holy spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea
and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."
9 -After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.
Again, the Holy Spirit described as POWER!
And where is all this 'Co_equality' Churchianity claims their 3 'God-Persons' have?
The scriptures state men wrote them down as guided by God.
Acts 1:15- In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) 16- and said, "Brothers
and sisters, the Scripture had to be fulfilled in which the holy spirit spoke long ago through David concerning Judas, who served as guide for those
who arrested Jesus.
God does things with the POWER of Holy Spirit, Holy "Breath", "Wind"!
No Ghost possessed David and spoke thru him; God's power moved David to write down what Jehovah was showing him.
God does things with the POWER of Holy Spirit, Holy "Breath", "Wind" (as it means
in Hebrew and Greek) . Notice how God REVEALS it to all Christians- not as
a Ghost, or any kind of Person, as God, Christ and angels have:
Acts 2:1- When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place.
2- Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled
the whole house where they were sitting.
3- They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest
on each of them.
4- All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other
tongues as the Spirit enabled them.
God WANTED them to know what IT was; His POWER!
The sound of WIND (spirit), the physical appearance, not of little FACES-
but power- LIKE 'tongues' of 'flame'; FLAME the one source of energy and
power they ALL used!
Acts 2:16- this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
17- "And in the last days it shall be, God declares,
that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh,
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams;
18- yea, and on my menservants and my maidservants in those days
I will pour out my spirit; and they shall prophesy.
Is one of 3 'God-Persons' "poured out" by one or two of the OTHER 'God-Persons'?
Our does God "pour out" POWER to His believers?
The distinction between Christ and God is seen once again:
Acts 2:22-"Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves also know�
23- him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death;
24- whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that he should be held by it.
25- For David says concerning him:
" I foresaw the LORD (Jehovah in Hebrew) always before my face, For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken.
26- Therefore my heart rejoiced, and my tongue was glad;
Moreover my flesh also will rest in hope.
27- For You will not leave my soul in Hades,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.
28- You have made known to me the ways of life;
You will make me full of joy in Your presence."
29-"Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day.
30- Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, He would raise up the Christ to sit on his throne,
31 -he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that his soul was not left in Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption.
32- This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses.
33- Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the holy spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear.
To review: God was the One performing miracles thru Christ (by holy spirit).
God raised him from the dead,
God placed him on the Throne.
No mention of the Holy Spirit being a Ghost-God. The "Power of the Most High" is POURED OUT! (Only in Church Dogma)
Acts 2:34 -For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself:
" The LORD (Jehovah in Hebrew) said to my Lord, " Sit at My right hand, 35- Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."
36- "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."
NOTE: GOD (not Jesus) MADE Christ Lord; he wasn't ALREADY Lord.
Acts 2: 38 Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of
the holy spirit.
Was 1/3 of God given as a Gift?
Or and Gabriel described it "the POWER of the Most High"?
Acts 3:12 When Peter saw this, he said to them: "People of Israel, why does this surprise you? Why do you stare at us as if by our own power or godliness we
had made this man walk?
13- The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him
before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go.
14- You disowned the Holy and Righteous One and asked that a murderer be released to you.
15- You killed the author of life, but God raised him from the dead. We are witnesses of this.
Here we see God referred to as ONE Personage glorifying and resurrecting Jesus.
AND, Jesus referred to as a SERVANT!
Was Jehovah ever referred to as a servant???
This is like he's talking directly to CHURCHianity!:
Acts 3: 17 "Now, brothers and sisters, I know that you acted in ignorance, as did your leaders.
18- But this is how God fulfilled what he had foretold through all the prophets, saying that his Messiah would suffer.
19- Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord ("Jehovah" in the
book quoted from),
20- and that he may send the Messiah, who has been appointed for you �even Jesus.
21 -Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.
22- For Moses said, 'The Lord ("Jehovah" in the book quoted from), your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own
people; you must listen to everything he tells you.
23- Anyone who does not listen to him will be completely cut off from their people.'
God is not the One that would suffer as a man- it is the Messiah He sent!
Acts 4:10- know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth,
whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, [ denied by Churchianity] that this man stands before you healed.
11 -Jesus is " 'the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.'
12- Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name GIVEN under heaven by which we must be saved."
Notice the contrast between the One True God and Jesus His son?
God has GIVEN Jesus as Savior, the Name (name meaning Salvation of Jehovah") to be saved by.
He didn't become a man- His SON did.
Acts 5:29-Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, "We ought to obey God rather than men.
30- The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
31-Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. "
Why didn't the Apostles start teaching the Trintity to the crowds- telling them how God resurrected Himself/Themselves- even though ALIVE?
"Tree" - not "cross'?
OOOO! SO many questions for churchoids to consider!
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Acts 5:32- And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the holy ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
The mis-translation of "spirit" as "Ghost" misleads. God, thru His Power - the holy spirit- relayed this information to them.
God doesn't GIVE another God, or 1/3 of Themselves! He gives of His POWER!
Many Trinitarians claim Jesus gave up 'being God' when he became a man.
Stephen saw otherwise; he saw Christ AFTER being resurrected to heaven:
Acts 7:55-But he, being full of the holy ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on
the right hand of God.
God referred to separately, Christ on God's "right hand".
Even others saw the holy spirit for what it was: POWER.
Stephen wasn't FULL of one 1/3 of the Gods....while 2 were in heaven!
Acts 8:17-Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the holy ghost.
18-And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the holy ghost was given, he offered them money,
19-Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the holy ghost.
20-But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.
Was 1/3 God possessing those receiving 'Him'? Or were they receiving the Power (Breath) of God?
Here is an interesting reference to holy spirit:
Acts 8:26-And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem
unto Gaza, which is desert.
27-And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the
charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
28-Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
29-Then the spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
If by now, after reading all these many scriptures (in order from Genesis!), you are still thinking the Holy Spirit might be a GHOST-God- why was the ANGEL
there with Philip?
To me, it's easy to see that God was guiding both the angel and Philip WITH His spirit (Breath) - His POWER that his servants are "Filled" with, which is
"Poured" out and divided. Not Coming 'Themselves' and bringing an angel to relay a simple message...
We all have to choose for ourselves!
Acts 10:34- Then Peter began to speak: "I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism
35- but accepts those from every nation who fear him and do what is right.
36 -You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the
good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.
37- You know what has happened throughout the province of Judea, beginning
in Galilee after the baptism that John preached�
38- how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the holy spirit and power, and
how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power
of the devil, because God was with him.
The TRUE relationship of the Only True God- and His Son.
No shared 'Godhood' , No Ghost-God. GOD (a separate Being) was WITH Jesus.
I/3 God did NOT anoint (appoint) another 1/3 God, with ANOTHER 1/3 God-Ghost!
Acts 10:44- While Peter was still speaking these words, the holy spirit came on all who heard the message.
45- The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished
that the gift of the holy spirit had been poured out even on Gentiles.
46- For they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God.
The Holy Spirit is "poured out" and referred to as a Gift. No Ghost-God!
God, or 1/3 God was never poured out.
Acts 13:9 -Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the holy spirit,
looked straight at Elymas and said,
10 -"You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right!
You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting
the right ways of the Lord?
11- Now the hand of the Lord is against you. You are going to be blind for a
time, not even able to see the light of the sun."
Paul is "FILLED" with Holy Spirit!
Was he filled with a Ghost-God?
Or with "the Power of the Highest"?
Acts 15:7- After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them:
"Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among
you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the
gospel and believe.
8- God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving
the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.
If one just LISTENS to the scriptures they CLEARLY show the Spirit to
be God's POWER- NOT a God-Ghost. Even here it doesn't say
ANYTHING to support the church dogma: God GIVES them His Holy
Spirit. Does He give HIMSELF?One of 'Themselves'? No- He gives His POWER, which "fills" them
as liquid in a glass.
The many references to the Spirit are completely meaningless when trying
to pound the Square Peg (Trinity) into the Round Hole (God).
That's why the Catholic Church came up with the term "Sacred Mystery"!
To add credibility to nonsense in the minds of the gullible!
Acts 17:29- Therefore since we are God's offspring, we should not think
that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone�an image made by human design and skill.
30- In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands
all people everywhere to repent.
31- For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has APPOINTED. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.
Why do the Apostles never say that God raised HIMSELF from the dead?
They never say "God died for us"..
They ALWAYS say God resurrected Jesus.
And that Jesus was APPOINTED, not by Himself- but by GOD.
Trinitarians have to work very hard to fill the endlessly appearing holes
of their little lifeboat with anything they can find...but it always sinks fast!- because they even deny he or 'They' DIED!
Acts 19:5- On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.
6- When Paul placed his hands on them, the holy spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.
7 -There were about twelve men in all.
Were these 12 men possessed by a Ghost-God, or filled with the
"Power of the Most High"?
Romans 1: 7- To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be his holy people: Grace and peace to you from God our Father AND
from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Thus, with the opening of most NT books, the distinction between, and
the harmony of both God (Jehovah) and Christ are shown.
Since they both always work together,they have similar titles and roles. We know Christ is to Judge, but notice this:
Romans 2:16- This will take place on the day when God judges everyone's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
"MY" Gospel????? Can you understand what THAT means?
Rom 3:29- Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too,
30- since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith.
"There is only ONE God"- he's not talking about the harmony between 3 God-Beings, folks!
Jesus said the same thing- remember?
And Jesus serves and worships the SAME God, the One he said is the ONLY true God. (John 17:3)
Rom 5:1- Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
2- through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.
There's that pesky word "through" again!
Rom 5:8- But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were
still sinners, Christ died for us.
9- Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall
we be saved from God's wrath through him!
10- For if, while we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to Him
through the death of his Son, how much more, having been
reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!
11- Not only is this so, but we also boast in God through our
Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received
reconciliation.
The word "through", says it all.
God didn't nor can die. But Jesus did- even tho they deny THAT, too!
Jesus SAVES us from the wrath of.....GOD!
HIS God and Father!
Romans 7:24- What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?
25- Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
Again- God distinguished from Christ.
If the Apostles believed in the Trinity- they CERTAINLY would
have referred to Christ, God, and the Spirit in an ENTIRELY different manner.
Let's re-word this after inserting the 'Trinity'!~
25- Thanks be to God Jesus, who delivers me!
25- Thanks be to our Triune Lords, who deliver me!
25- Thanks be to the Holy Trinity, who deliver me!
25- Thanks be to God-the-Father, God-the-Son, and God-the-Ghost, who deliver me!
25- Thanks be to the Holy Essences, who deliver me!
25- Thanks be to the Holy Natures, who deliver me!
25- Thanks be to our Triune Godhead, who deliver me!
YEEEECCCHHH!
For those of you that know what the Holy Spirit REALLY is (the POWER of God, which Christ uses),
it will be very easy to understand the next verses-
Rom 8:9- But ye are not in the flesh but in the spirit, if so be that the spirit of God dwelleth in you. But if any man hath not
the spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10- And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the spirit is life because of righteousness.
Now, try to read the 'Trinity' into THAT!
We christians don't have a body of flesh anymore, but have the body of the Ghost-God ?
Christ's Spirit is ANOTHER Ghost ( or maybe the SAME Ghost-God)?
And we are possessed by the Ghost-God AND Christ-the-Ghost, as implied in THIS translation~
Amplified Bible:"But you are not living the life of the flesh, you are living the life of the Spirit, if the [Holy] Spirit of God [really] dwells within you [directs and controls you].
But if anyone does not possess the [Holy] Spirit of Christ, he is none of His [he does not belong to Christ, is not truly a child of God].
This translation maks it a LITTLE clearer~
Living Bible: But you are not like that. You are controlled by your new nature if you have the Spirit of God living in you.
(And remember that if anyone doesn’t have the Spirit of Christ living in him, he is not a Christian at all.)
Rom 8:16-The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God
Now, for those thinking of a way to reject this, notice that he compares the Spirit of God to the Spirit of Man; both having a force- a mental
POWER that they direct where they choose!
When the two link up- it's a beautiful thing: a Real CHRISTIAN.
And, also notice he refers to the spirit as "ITSELF"?-KJV
No possession of a Ghost-God, but the direction and help from "the Power of the Most High"~
Rom 8:26-Likewise the spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the spirit>>> itself <<< maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27-And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Notice the fact that the spirit, AGAIN, is referred to (again) as "itself'...?
And JESUS is the one searching our hearts!
Trinitarians claim not only that God's Spirit is a fellow God, a Ghost-God, but that IT also has a Name: "Holy"! (At least that is what one just TOLD me!)
HOLY Cow! That someone has to stretch their Imagination THAT far to continue to believe in such a Juvenile Dogma!
Yet they find things they cling to like life preservers!
Here the Spirit is referred to as having a "mind", "intercessing" and some type of "groanings" that, for some reason "can't be uttered"...Why?
Seriously, though- if those were the only kind of references to IT- I, too, would
start thinking of it that way again, too- as I did when a Catholic.
Buuuuut, yet AGAIN the reference to it as an "it". Together with the scriptures
listed here IN ORDER from Revelation, we see God and Christ referrring to it
as an "it" and as "Power" that is poured out, divided out to a large group- and
that is NEVER seen EXCEPT as a Power.
How can a person know a Nameless, Faceless Ghost-God? (Rhetorical Question)
So, for those of you that KNOW what the Spirit of God REALLY is, Paul's words make
PERFECT sense; when we pray to God, His Spirit conveys our inmost thoughts
and perceptions, so that God KNOWS what we are asking for- even if not clear!
The Holy Spirit, as Gabriel best described it- "the Power of the Most High"!
Rom 8:31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us,
who can be against us?
32 He who did not spare his own son, but gave him up for us all how will he not
also, along with him, graciously give us all things?
33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God
who justifies.
34 Who then can condemn? No one. Christ Jesus who died- more than that,
who was raised to life is at the right hand of God and is also
interceding for us.
If the Triune God came 'Themselves', as Churchianity claims- this makes NO sense at ALL!
And, remember- they DENY Christ died in the first place!
Rom 9:1 -I speak the truth in Christ- I am not lying, my conscience confirms it through the holy spirit
2 -I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart.
He did NOT have to ask a 'Holy Ghost' to see if he was speaking truth;
God's Power was in him, guiding him; he instinctively KNEW, because of that.
Rom 14:17- For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking,
but of righteousness, peace and joy in the holy spirit,
18- because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and
receives human approval.
Christ and God differentiated as always.
Romans 15:5- May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give
you the same attitude of mind toward each other that Christ Jesus had,
6- so that with one mind and one voice you may glorify
the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Reading the scriptures with Traditional Teachings in mind blinds one from
seeing the SIMPLEST truths- such as Jesus having, serving, and obeying
the commands of God- not BEING God; for the Supreme Being, who Christ
called the ONLY True God, is not subject to ANYONE, as JESUS is- to HIM.
Yet AGAIN, the Holy Spirit is described as POWER:
Rom 15:13- May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you
trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by
the power of the holy spirit.
Rom 15:15- Yet I have written you quite boldly on some points to remind you of them again, because of the grace God gave me
16- to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles. He gave me the
priestly duty of proclaiming the gospel of God, so that the Gentiles
might become an offering acceptable to God, sanctified by the holy spirit.
Let's try imagining how Paul would have wrote this if he believed in
the Trinity Dogma:
" Yet I have written you quite boldly on some points to remind
you of them again, because of the grace God-the-Father gave me
to be a minister the Holy TrinityGod-theFather, God-the-Son,and the Holy Ghost to the Gentiles. He gave me the priestly duty of proclaiming the gospel of the Triune God, so that the Gentiles might become an offering acceptable to the Holy Trinity, sanctified by the Holy Ghost-God."
Above all, Christ taught his followers to help people to KNOW God,
so every reference would be made to that purpose. Instead, we find
the clear, concise, and repeated reference to ONE God- the ONLY
True God- no foul Trinity, nor Trinitese references in God's Word.
God sends Christ, empowered and directed thru the POWER of God-
the Holy Spirit.
And yet ANOTHER description of the Holy Spirit being POWER, rather
than the mythical Ghost-God of CHURCHianity:
Rom 15:17- Therefore I glory in Christ Jesus in my service to God.
18- I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has
accomplished through me in leading the Gentiles to obey God
by what I have said and done-
19- by the power of signs and wonders, through the power of the Spirit of God.
And a clear distinction between God and Christ.
Let's to the Trinitarian Game again with THIS verse; this is getting FUN! Heh!
"Therefore I glory in GodJesus, who is My God in my service to the
Triune God. I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ
my God has accomplished through me in leading the Gentiles to obey THEM
by what I have said and done by the power of signs and wonders,
through the power of God-the-Ghost."
FOUL, isn't it?
Paul ends his letter to the Roman congregation with the non-Trinitarian-
Rom 16:27- to the only wise God be glory forever through Jesus Christ! Amen.
Trinitarians seem to read it:
" the only wise Trinity be glory forever through Jesus Christ, God-the-Son! "
Yecch!
1 Corinthians opens with: 1 Cor 1:3- Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Not any Triune Godhead!
1 Cor 1:4- I always thank my God for you because of His
grace given you in Christ Jesus.
5- For in him you have been enriched in every way with
all kinds of speech and with all knowledge
6- God thus confirming our testimony about Christ among you.
7- Therefore you do not lack any spiritual gift as you eagerly
wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed.
8- He will also keep you firm to the end, so that you will be
blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9- God is faithful, who has called you into fellowship with
his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.
No Trini-babble in these verses, as always; the Only True God has given His Son-
not come Himself, or, heh, 'Themselves'!.
So CLEAR!
People often see only what they WANT to see...
1 Cor 1:28- God chose the lowly things of this world and the
despised things and the things that are not to nullify the things that are,
29- so that no one may boast before him.
30- It is because of Him that you are in Christ Jesus,
who has become for us Wisdom from God that is,
our righteousness, holiness and redemption.
God never came to you as a man, or a 'God-man' .
Yet, once again, notice that no 'Ghost-God' is mentioned?
Truth IS truth, and easily seen- until satanic dogma in man stands up!
1 Cor 2:4- My message and my preaching were not with wise and
persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the spirit's power,
5- so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God's power.
It's like the scriptures are crying out: "Do you GET it yet???"
1 Cor 2:7- No, we declare God's wisdom, a mystery that has been
hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.
8- None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they
would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9- However, as it is written:
"What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived
these things God has prepared for those who love him"
10- for God has revealed them to us by his spirit.
Has a Ghost-God appeared to any of YOU revealing God and His Purpose?
His POWER (not a 'Ghost-God') that guides, empowers, encourages, and instructs is the
"Power of the Most High".
1 Cor 2:10- But unto us God revealed them through the Spirit:
for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11- For who among men knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of the man, which is in him? even so the things of God none knoweth, save the spirit of God.
12- But we received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is from God; that we might know the things that were freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the spirit teacheth; combining spiritual things with spiritual words.
14- Now the natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him; and he cannot know them, because they are spiritually judged.
15- But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, and he himself is judged of no man.
16- For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he should instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
Note; there is OUR spirit, God's spirit, and the WORLD'S spirit; the Bible isn't talking about Ghosts!
In Romans 8, Paul said God's Spirit bears witness to OUR spirit.
Ghosts, spirit creatures weren't being discussed!
God's POWER relaying instructions, and encouraging, helping sense things WAS.
The Mind of Christ is conveyed thru it!
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1 Cor 3:21- So then, no more boasting about human leaders! All things are yours,
22- whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or the present
or the future - all are yours,
23- and you are of Christ, and Christ is of God.
Christ is THEIR Leader, God is Christ's . (No Triune Psychobabble EVER found)
1 Cor 6:9- Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers
nor male prostitutes nor practising homosexuals
10- nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will
inherit the kingdom of God.
11- And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified,
you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the spirit of our God.
No Ghost-God came down to justify them!
Thru the Holy Spirit- the POWER of God- they WERE.
1 Cor 6:14- By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also.
Similar phrases refer God raising him by Holy Spirit. POWER!
Of course, Churchianity teaching Jesus is 1/3 God, teaches he NEVER died, was NEVER resurrected...
...it was just the Body, the corpse! So many beautiful scriptures are thus perverted by them!
1 Cor 8:5- For even if there are so-called Gods, whether in heaven
or on earth (as indeed there are many "Gods" and many "lords"),
6- yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things
came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ,
through whom all things came and through whom we live.
Not to CHURCHianity!
1 Cor 10: 2- They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.
3- They all ate the same spiritual food
4- and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual
rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.
This shows that Christ was representing Jehovah as the Word in Israel's Day!
No one saw Jehovah Himself. Only what He manifested through His son (who wasn't named "Jesus" yet)
Is any man or woman the head of God?
Of COURSE not!
Neither is Jesus!
1 Cor 11:3- But I want you to realize that the head of every
man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and
the head of Christ is God.
No equality, no 'Co-Equality'.
No Triune anything.
No Ghost-God.
No Godman.
GOD is the head of Jesus,
Just as Jesus is the head of man.
1 Cor 12:6- There are different kinds of working, but in all of
them and in everyone it is the same God at work.
11- All these are the work of one and the same spirit, and He
distributes them to each one, just as he determines.
12- Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its
many parts form one body, so it is with Christ.
13- For we were all baptized by one spirit so as to form
one body whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free and we were all given the one
spirit to drink.
14- Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.
God is shown to be the One WORKING thru the Gifts of the
spirit he used in the beginning stages of Christianity, and Paul
speaks of DRINKING it!
Does that sound like the workings of a 1/3 God- a Nameless Ghost-God...
Paul drinking a Holy Ghost-God...or
that God was directing things thru His Power?
1 Cor 15:22- For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all
will be made alive.
23- But in this order: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when
he comes, those who belong to him.
24- Then the end will come, when he hands over the
kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all
dominion, authority and power.
25- For he must reign until he has put all his enemies
under his feet.
26- The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
27- For He "has put everything under his feet." Now
when it says that "everything" has been put under him,
it is clear that this does not include
God himself, who put everything under Christ.
28- When he has done this, then the Son himself will
be made subject to Him who put everything under him,
so that God may be all in all.
Thus the Lie of the Trinity Dogma is settled- on this
reference ALONE- altho it is FAR from alone!
No equality! No 'God-the-Son'. No Ghost-God!
Just the Only TRUE God- and the one He GAVE His Power
& Authority to (thus "was" God, as Moses once was) His Son,
now named Jesus! )
2 Cor 1:3- Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort!
And yet AGAIN states Jesus as having a Being Superior to him: God.
(God= Supreme Being)
No Triune Nonsense!
2 Cor 1:20- For no matter how many promises God has made, they
are "Yes" in Christ. And so through him the "Amen" is spoken by
us to the glory of God.
No Trinity nonsense.
God. Christ.
Not God and God-the-Son. No such thing as a 'Holy Ghost', either.
There's God, His breath/wind/"spirit"- and there's also Christ.
2 Cor 1:21- Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in
Christ. He anointed us,
22- set his seal of ownership on us, and put his spirit in our
hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
Hard to think of God- or 1/3 God- as a "deposit"... easy to think
of the Power of God as such!
Even when the Spirit is referred to in an illustrative sense,
it is clear that it is an "it"- a POWER rather than a Person:
2 cor 3:3- You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result
of our ministry, written not with ink but with the spirit of the
living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human
hearts.
2- You yourselves are our letter, written on our hearts,
known and read by everyone.
3- You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry,
written not with ink but with the spirit of the living God, not on tablets
of stone but on tablets of human hearts.
4 -Such confidence we have through Christ before God.
5- Not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything for
ourselves, but our competence comes from God.
6- He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant�
not of the letter but of the spirit; for the letter kills, but
the spirit gives life.
Again God spoken of separately from Christ, the spirit as
a force, or influence of God's power.
No TriniBabble.
2 Cor 3:15- Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.
16- But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
17- Now the Lord is the spirit, and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
18- And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his image with
ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the spirit.
The Trinity creates Lord-aphobia; seeing Christ everywhere "LORD" is referred to.
(since the ancient Koine Greek had no version of "Jehovah", yet- "Lord" was used- often blurring the Lord Jesus and the Lord Jehovah)
The Lord here, is Jesus' God- Jehovah.
He is identified as BEING the spirit, the One carrying out Holy works.
As His son said "God IS spirit", and that we must WORSHIP with spirit & Truth. No with a Ghost or 1/3 God and Truth.
The literal meaning of the Greek word "pnema' translated as "spirit" makes it easy to understand: Wind, Breath- an Invisible Force!
Worshipping with "spirit" means worshipping with heartfelt ENTHUSIASM, and ZEAL!
2 Cor 4:4- The God of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers,
so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays
the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
5- For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord,
and ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake.
6- For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," made
his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge
of God's glory displayed in the face of Christ.
This explains how Trinitarians have been thus blinded, not seeing the glory of Christ,
nor God's- but seeing them both as the same, when Jesus, God- and
the ENTIRE Bible show otherwise!
2 Cor 5:5- Now the One who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God,
who has given us the spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
Hard for me to think of 1/3 GOD as a deposit- but not for unthinking Trinitarians ...
2 Cor 5:17- Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come:
The old has gone, the new is here!
18- All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and
gave us the ministry of reconciliation:
19- that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting
people's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message
of reconciliation.
20- We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making
his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ's behalf:
Be reconciled to God.
21- God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might
become the righteousness of God.
This is completely MEANINGLESS reading it with the Trinity Dogma!
Mediators are separate from the 2 parties- but, as with most words,
Churchese perverts the meaning!
God does not directly reconcile with mankind- but uses a Mediator.
A High Priest; His very own Son!
2 Cor 11:4- For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or
if you receive a different spirit from the spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted,
you put up with it easily enough.
We see the results of that; after the Apostles died off they CONTINUED to "put up with it" as an ENTIRELY different Jesus
was taught; a Godman Jesus- 'Co-Equal to 2 OTHER 'God-Persons', who only PRETENDED to die... the beginning
of Churchianity- when Rome created it's "Universal" ("Catholic") Church- continued to do so...
2 Cor 11:30- If I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness.
31 -The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is to be praised forever, knows that I am not lying.
Once again, the Supreme Being (God) does not have someone Supreme OVER Him!
Jesus does.
2 Cor 13:3- since you are demanding proof that Christ is speaking through me. He is not weak in dealing with you, but is powerful
among you.
4- For to be sure, he was impaled in weakness, yet he lives by God's power. Likewise, we are weak in him, yet by God's power
we will live with him in our dealing with you.
Christ is PROVEN not to be God, here, too: he doesn't live
by his own Power- but the Power (holy spirit) radiating FROM God!
Here's one that, without having read the Bible, would LOOK like
the Trinity is being referred to:
2 Cor 13: 14- May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the holy spirit be with you all.
Just what is the " fellowship of the holy spirit"?
Going places and hanging out with a Ghost-God?
A people linked by the influence of God's Power (spirit); the holy spirit gathers Christians together, teaching and encouraging
us- directing us to preach the Good News of the Kingdom, as Christ SAID would be done in the Last Days.
We are a Fellowship closer than most families! (JWs)
Gal 1:1- Paul, an apostle sent not with a human commission nor by human authority, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who
raised him from the dead!
God is, as always, referred to as a being separate from Christ.
No reference to the fabricated "God-the-Father" , "God-the-Son" nor "God-the-Ghost".
And He- not Jesus himself- is always referred to as the One who resurrected Christ!
Gal 1:3- Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ,
4- who gave himself for our sins to rescue us from the present evil age, according
to the will of our God and Father,
5- to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
(Flashback:)
Cor 8:5- For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven
or on earth (as indeed there are many "gods" and many "lords"),
6- yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things
came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ,
through whom all things came and through whom we live.
Trinitarians have no answer how the Supreme Being can BE supreme, if
He serves and is commanded by ANOTHER Supreme Being!
The Catholic-inspired Dogma is so full of holes that it is difficult
to FIND them all! A Religious Swiss Cheese!
Gal 1:15- But when God, who set me apart from birth and called me
by his grace, was pleased
16- to reveal his son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles,
my immediate response was not to consult any human being.
Did Paul mean:
1- That God revealed 1/3 of Themselves hiding in Paul's body, or
2- that God revealed Jesus in Paul's heart?
Gal 4:6- And because ye are sons, God sent forth the spirit of his son
into our hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
(Remember Rom 8:15-For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again
to fear; but ye have received the spirit of adoption, whereby we cry,
Abba, Father.16-The spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God.)
The spirit of God, the spirit of bondage, the spirit of adoption, and the spirit of Christ are not Ghosts/Spirit Beings-
but attitudes, and forces that influence people.
Gal 4:28- Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise.
29- At that time the son born by human effort persecuted the son born by
the power of the spirit. It is the same now.
Once again, as in so many cases, the holy spirit is referred to as "POWER".
Gal 6:18- The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit, brothers
and sisters. Amen.
"Your spirit", "God's spirit"- no Ghosts/Spirit Beings anywhere.
The power of mind & heart are being referred to!
Eph 1: 3- Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who
has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.
Yet AGAIN Christ is referred to as HAVING a God- not BEING God.
Eph 1:9- He made known to us the mystery of His will according to His good
pleasure, which He purposed in Christ,
10- to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfilment, to bring
unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ.
"When the times reach rtheir fulfillment" - the Appointed Time!
Jesus said of the end times "if those days were NOT cut short- NO flesh would be saved!
Heaven & Earth UNITED! The "New Heaven and Earth" pictured in Revelation 21!
No 'Triune Godhead' EVER seen, nor mentioned in God's Word!
Eph 1:13-In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth,
the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye
were sealed with that holy spirit of promise,
14-Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the
purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
"That holy spirit"...OF PROMISE!
No 1/3 Ghost-God, just the connection between the Power of
God (holy spirit) which backed God's Promise, and those with faith!
Eph 1:17- I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ,
the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so
that you may know Him better.
Jesus' God. Not God Jesus. No Ghost-God.
God's spirit being referred to as the wisdom & revelation He conveys thru
His POWER, His "spirit".
Eph 1:18- 18- I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you
may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious
inheritance in his people,
19- and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is
the same as the mighty strength
20- he exerted when He raised Christ from the dead and seated him at
his right hand in the heavenly realms,
21- far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that can be invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come.
Remember the exception to "every"- 1 Cor 15:27
Trying to cram the Trinity into this is so absurd on SO many levels!~
-God, or 1/3 God would have to DIE, meaning he ISN'T Eternal, and has no 'IMMORTAL soul'- while MEN do!
-A resurrected Almighty God would not NEED to be 'seated'; he would RETURN to His throne!
- It is GOD - not a 'God-the-WHATEVER'- that GIVES this honor and position to Christ- as ALL the scriptures
CONTINUALLY tell us, which are continually IGNORED by Churchianity!
Eph1:22- 22- And God >>> placed<<< all things under his feet and >>> appointed <<< him to be head over everything for the congregation,
23- which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.
Remember how the 'fullness of the Godhead dwells in him bodily' that they claim means the '3 God-Persons' were possessing that body?
Here the word "fills" is used, the congregations ('church') being his body.
God never has "indwelled" or "filled" any human body literally- but does so with His Breath (Spirit)!
No 'Co-Equal' 'Triune God' is here or ANYWHERE in the Bible; hrere we see Jesus placed and appointed by.....GOD!
Eph 2:4- But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy,
5- made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions-
it is by grace you have been saved.
God and Christ- ALWAYS spoke of separately. ALWAYS!
"Grace" is how the Greek word (charis) meaning " a gift or blessing, favor, gratitude, thanks, a favor, kindness.
By [kindness, a blessing, a favor, or grace] you have been saved.
Eph 2:19 -Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow
citizens with God's people and also members of his household,
20- built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus
himself as the chief cornerstone.
21- In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy
temple in the Lord.
22- And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which
God lives by his spirit.
God lives in us thru the POWER of holy spirit- in our hearts.
Eph 3:4 -In reading this, then, you will be able to understand my insight into the mystery of Christ,
5- which was not made known to people in other generations as it has now been revealed by the spirit to God's holy apostles and prophets.
As usual, we see the Holy Spirit referred to in the sense of a force, a power- rather than a Ghost/Spirit Being-God that appears and literally instructs.
Eph 3:7- I became a servant of this gospel by the gift of God's grace
given me through the working of his power.
Holy Spirit=the Power of God!
Eph 3:14- For this reason I kneel before the Father,
15- from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name.
16- I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power
through his spirit in your inner being,
17- so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that
you, being rooted and established in love,
18- may have power, together with all the Lord's people, to grasp how
wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ,
19- and to know this love that surpasses knowledge�that you may be
filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.
Again-God is referred to as the Ultimate Authority (God)- not Jesus or a Ghost/Spirit Being.
Eph 3:20- Now to Him who is able to do immeasurably more than all
we ask or imagine, according to His >>> power <<< that is at work within us,
21- to Him be glory in the church >>> and <<< in Christ Jesus throughout all
generations, for ever and ever! Amen.
Filled with Spirit= Filled with POWER!!
Eph 4:3- Make every effort to keep the unity of the spirit through the bond of peace.
4- There is one body and one spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called;
5- one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
6 -one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
ONE Lord. Jesus. One spirit (breath, wind).
AND... Only ONE God. Jehovah. Over .... ALL- including Jesus!
No Triune ANYTHING!
Eph 5:1- Follow God's example, therefore, as dearly loved children
2- and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself
up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
Trinitarinans look at it as: " God loved us and gave one of Themselves
up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to Himself"... YECCH!
Eph 5:18- Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the spirit.
Filled...with a Ghost-God????
Of COURSE not.
Filled with power from God- which refreshes FAR more than any wine!
Eph 6:18- And pray in the spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests.
Such constant references to God's spirit are meaningless when
wearing Trinity Goggles; a 'Ghost-God' just doesn't fit!
(Or do we have to climb inside a Ghost-God to pray?)
Pray with God's Will in mind- not for money and selfish desire!
Phil 1:19- for I know that through your prayers and God's provision of the spirit of Jesus Christ what has happened to me will turn
out for my deliverance.
The spirit of Jesus? Is there ANOTHER Ghost-God? Or is it the guidance of Christ?
Phil 2:6- who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped.
The form of God. (NOT "being" God)
If he were God- he would have ALREADY been equal!
God is Spirit, Christ is Spirit, Angels are Spirit.- Teir form is SPIRIT, not Flesh!
Man isn't.
Point being, that even though being a Spirit in Heaven, he didn't even think of seizing equality as Satan did!
Instead he humbled himself to carry out the will of God.
Phil 2:9 -Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,
10- that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11- and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
And 1 Cor 15 states that there is ONE EXCEPTION!
A second God wasn't RETURNED to Godhood!
Christ was GIVEN his NEW position BY God!
Phil 3:20- But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,
21- who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that
they will be like his glorious body.
What POWER enables Christ? If you don't know that by NOW- you need to go back to the START of this list,
to Genesis, and read it all AGAIN!
Col 1:9- For this reason, since the day we heard about you,
we have not stopped praying for you. We continually ask
God to fill you with the knowledge of his will through all
the wisdom and understanding that the spirit gives,
10- so that you may live a life worthy of the Lord and please
him in every way: bearing fruit in every good work, growing in
the knowledge of God,
11- being strengthened with all power according to his glorious
might so that you may have great endurance and patience!
And, yet again, God's Holy Spirit being referred to as POWER!
O where, O where can the Ghost-God be?
Col 1:12- giving thanks unto the Father, who made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light;
13- who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the kingdom of the son of his love;
14- in whom we have our redemption, the forgiveness of our sins:
15- who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;
16- for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or
dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto him;
17- and he is before all things, and in him all things consist. -ASV
An Image of Whistler's Mother IS NOT THE REAL PAINTING!
An image looks just like the real thing!
The contrast between Christ & God is further shown when Christ is COMPARED with God here: he is the IMAGE
(reflection) of God, and the Firstborn (First one BORN) of all CREATION- he is a PART of the Creation.
Notice how EVERYWHERE in the Bible God and Christ are spoken of as different entities!
Notice, too, that it doesn't say Christ created all things, but says "IN" or 'THROUGH" Christ all things were created; this shows
that God created all things THRU His son!
So yes, it can be said that Christ made all things (by his God's power), but ultimately it is Jehovah Himself who did it.
Col 2:9 -for in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.-ASV
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.- KJV
All the fullness of deity lives in Christ's body.- CEB
For in him, bodily, lives the fullness of all that God is. - CJV
All of God lives in Christ's body- GWT
For the entire fullness of God�s nature dwells bodily in Christ- HCSB
Yet it is in him that God gives a full and complete expression of himself - JBNT
God's whole nature is living in Christ in human form. - NIV
God lives fully in Christ. - CEV
It is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily. NWT
The NEXT verses tell us that true CHRISTIANS are ALSO brought
to this fullness! God dwells 'in' us, and works thru us!-
2:10- and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head
over every power and authority.
13- When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of
your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave
us all our sins.
How wonderful to be able to UNDERSTAND God's Word!
"Godhead" is archaic for "divie"- not that God has a head!
A Triune God did not become a baby, grwing into a Godman!
All the wonderful qualities of Jehovah were the same qualities His son had!
Col 3:1- If then ye were raised together with Christ, seek the things
that are above, where Christ is, seated on the right hand of God.
You have to put the Trinity Goggles on to see:
"God-the-Son" is seated at the right hand of "God-the-Father" , and to the left of "God-the-Ghost"!
The "Right Hand of"- has always been a term denoting the second in command!
God is the One (not 3) that he sits NEXT to.
Col 3:17- And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.
As ALWAYS the crystal clear distinction is made between the person (not persons) of God and His son.
And the word "through" says it ALL!
1 Thess 1:4- For we know, brothers and sisters loved by God, that He has chosen you, 5- because our gospel came to you
not simply with words but also with power, with the holy spirit and deep conviction.
What does Paul say the Holy Spirit is, here?
1 Thess 1:9- for they themselves report what happened when we visited you. They tell how you turned to God from idols
to serve the living and true God,
10- and to wait for his son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead- Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.
No Ghost-God, no Trinity.
There is God. There is Christ.
And, contrary to their spin of John 2, GOD resurrected him, not he himself!
1 Thess 3:11- Now may our God and Father Himself and our Lord Jesus clear the way for us to come to you.
No Ghost-God, no Trinity.
There is God. There is Christ.
CONSTANTLY shown.
1 Thess 4:8- Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who
gives you his holy spirit.
The Trinitarians, with their goggles on read this:
" the very God who gives you God-the- Ghost."
God does NOT give One of Themselves!
The dogma of this Triune Travesty insults God & Christ.
The holy spirit is simply the holy POWER of God
1 Thess 4:14- We believe that Jesus died and rose again, and
so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who
have fallen asleep in him.
Notice the word WITH? And DIED?
Jesus was not, contrary to Churchianity, ALIVE those 3 days!
He was DEAD, until resurrected by his God and Father!
God cannot die- as ALL know!
No Ghost-God, no Trinity.
There is God. There is Christ.
CONSTANTLY shown.
1 Thess 5:9- For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Notice the word THROUGH?
Not by God but THROUGH His son.
No Ghost-God, no Trinity.
There is God. There is Christ.
2 Thes 1:1- Paul, Silas and Timothy, To the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:
2- Grace and peace to you from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Notice the word AND?
No Ghost-God, no Trinity.
There is God. There is Christ.
2 Thess 2:16- May our Lord Jesus Christ himself and God our Father, who loved us and by his grace gave us eternal encouragement and good hope,
17- encourage your hearts and strengthen you in every good deed and word.
Notice the word AND?
No Ghost-God, no Trinity.
There is God. There is Christ. And there is his God and Father- Jehovah.
Always, the distinction is made!
1 Tim 1:1- Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the command of God our Savior and of Christ Jesus our hope,
2- To Timothy my true son in the faith: Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
As always, the two are contrasted.
Here God, too, is referred to as our Savior; for He is the one who GAVE us His son (Isa 9) as savior.
1 Tim 1:17- Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Notice the word ONLY....AGAIN?
Jesus, saying the same thing- said it was his Father- God.
Yes, Trinitarians, Jesus, Moses, and Angels were CALLED God...because God was SPEAKING thru them.
They weren't LITERALLY God; there is only ONE!
No Ghost-God, no Trinity. There is God. There is Christ.
And "the Power of the Most High"= the Holy Spirit!
1 Tim 2:3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior,
(Salvation is due to them BOTH, as proclaimed at:
Rev 7:10-In loud voice they cried, saying, salvation is due to our God,
Who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb ! )
4- who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
5- For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,
6- who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
Notice the words ONE, and MEDIATOR BETWEEN?
No Ghost-God, no Trinity.
There is only One TRUE God. And there is Christ.
1 Tim 5:21- I charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and
the elect angels, to keep these instructions without partiality,
and to do nothing out of favoritism.
Always, the distinction is made!
WHERE IS the 'Holy Trinity' of Churchianity?
Do God forge to mention it?
Such Blind Hypocrisy!
1 Tim 6:1-Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God
and his doctrine be not blasphemed.
This is showing that, even tho God's Name was replaced with "LORD" shortly after the apostles died, they ALL KNEW and
HONORED the Name of God... and it's not "LORD"!
Notice His Name is SEPARATED from His Teachings?
His name isn't being referred to as to what is known or taught about Him- IT'S HIS LITERAL NAME!
1 Tim 6:13- I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things,and before Christ Jesus who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate,
14- that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ's appearing,
15- which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
16- who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.
God, too, is King of Kings- and now His son is, too. (Rev 7:10)
Yet Jesus isn't King over GOD- the one who MADE him King.
God, Christ, and those God resurrects to Heaven are all KINGS!
Only One is the SUPREME King- Jehovah- to whom Jesus is subject to!
Because of the Trinity Dogma most read this as being about JESUS- when it is about GOD, who has His son ruling in His place.
GOD HIMSELF is referred to as never having been seen by man- as Jesus was... Jesus isn't God, since so many SAW HIM.
God is the POTENTATE (SOVERIGN Ruler) whose Authority is ABSOLUTE (Remember- the ONLY True God?)- even over Christ, the King of Kings! (1 Cor 15: 24-29 )
2 Tim 1:7- For the spirit [ "breath, wind"] God gave us does not make us timid, but gives us power, love and self-discipline.
8- So do not be ashamed of the testimony about our Lord, or of me his prisoner. But join with me in suffering for the gospel, by the POWER of God,
9- who has saved us and called us to a holy life- not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace.
Notice how the Holy Spirit is not referred to as a person, much less as "God"?
And, as usual, it is referred to as "The POWER of God"!
No Ghost-God EVER!
2 Tim 4:1- In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge:
2 -Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage�with great patience and careful instruction.
3- For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4- They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
5 But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.
Notice how, as usual, God and Christ are referred to as 2 different persons?
No Ghost-God is EVER mentioned- as WOULD be if the absurd Trinity Dogma was being referred to!
Just as Christ & the apostles warned of the deceivers coming, it started back then, growing in momentum-
resulting in the utter confusion, dis-unity, and passionate ignorance of CHURCHianity as it is today!
Titus 1: 1- Paul, a servant of God >>> AND <<< an apostle of Jesus Christ to further the faith of...
Again, no reference to a Ghost-God, and Jesus being referred to separately.
"O where, O where can the 'Trinity' be- O where O where can it be?"
Often,the Clergy whip a scripture out of context to perform
their magic trick, as with this-
Titus 2:10-Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in all things.
(They never include the REST)
11-For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12-Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13-Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God >>> AND <<< our Savior Jesus Christ ,14-Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
They say; Jesus is called the Great God! He isn't!
How pathetic, With all the scriptures we have just covered, no thinking person will see THAT (the two are set apart)- and then we have the context:
"AND our savior., Jesus Christ.."
Jehovah saved us by providing His son as Savior- so they are BOTH our Saviors, as noted in Rev 7:9- After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no man could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10- and crying out with a loud voice,
�Salvation belongs to our God who sits upon the throne, ... >>> AND <<< to the Lamb!�
Jesus is referred to as "the Grace of God". (vs11)
As shown from previous scripture God and Christ are both given credit for our salvation; God for SENDING His Son- and, of course, Jesus, His son, who carried out his Father's will!
Titus 3:4- But when the kindness of God our Saviour, and his love
toward man, appeared,
5- not by works done in righteousness, which we did ourselves, but
according to his mercy he saved us, through the washing of regeneration
and renewing of the holy spirit,
6- which he poured out upon us richly, through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
7- that, being justified by his grace, we might be made heirs according
to the hope of eternal life.
Here we see the Holy Spirit is POURED OUT.
That is not a description of a Person, a Ghost-God!
The Holy Spirit; the awesome "Power of the Highest" (Gabriel)!
The NEXT verses in the first chapter of Hebrews are always
quoted out of their CONTEXT, which is what is needed to
UNDERSTAND them!
Is Jesus the Almighty?
Why is he to be worshipped (given the highest honor)?
Was he EVER a Messenger (Angel) of God?
Let's see:
Heb 1:1- In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets
at many times and in various ways,
2- but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he
appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.
3- The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of
his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided
purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
4- So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has
inherited is superior to theirs.
Now, has CHURCHanese also given a new definition to the
word "BECAME"?
Notice how Jesus isn't somehow 'returned' to 'Godhood'?
Notice how he is spoken of a an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PERSON than
that of God?
Heb 1:5- For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son,
This day have I begotten thee? and again, I will be to him a Father, And
he shall be to me a Son?
(This question is ANSWERED in the next verses)
6- And when He again bringeth in the firstborn into the world He saith, And
let all the angels of God worship (or show the Highest Honor to) him.
7- And of the angels He saith, Who maketh his angels winds, And his
ministers a flame a fire:
8- but of the Son He saith, Thy throne, O God, (Or "God is thy Throne")
is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of
thy kingdom.
9 -Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, thy
God, hath anointed thee With the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Does the Almighty HAVE a God? Of COURSE not!
Otherwise He wouldn't BE "ALMIGHTY".
Jehovah is the God of Jesus Christ!
And notice how the angels are referred to as Christ's
"fellows", or equals...until this position is GIVEN to Jesus?
Hebrews 2:9 -But we behold him who hath been made a little lower
than the angels, even Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned
with glory and honor, that by the grace of God he should taste of
death for every man.
Notice that God is NEVER referred to as the one coming in the flesh
and dying- it is ALWAYS His own Son...
GOD NEVER became lower than the angels, never died- His SON did!
Heb 3:1-Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling, fix
your thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and high priest whom we confess.
2-He was faithful to the One who appointed him, just as Moses was faithful
in all God's house.
NO ONE can appoint God to ANYTHING!
Jesus is a PRIEST and APOSTLE ("sent forth one") of God! Not 'God-the-Priest' or 'God-the-Apostle'!
Heb 4:12-For the word of God is living and active.
Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates
even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow;
it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
(Notice how the scripture, like the Holy Spirit, are referred
to as doing things like a living person?)
13-Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight.
Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the
eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
14-Therefore, since we have a great high priest who
has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God,
let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.
15-For we do not have a high priest who is unable to
sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have
one who has been tempted in every way, just as
we are�yet was without sin.
16-Let us then approach the throne of grace with
confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find
grace to help us in our time of need.
Jesus. the High Priest between God and Man.
NOT God, but His SON.
Heb 5:1-Every high priest is selected from among men and
is appointed to represent them in matters related to God,
to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins.
2-He is able to deal gently with those who are ignorant and
are going astray, since he himself is subject to weakness.
3-This is why he has to offer sacrifices for his own sins, as
well as for the sins of the people.
4-No one takes this honor upon himself; he must be called
by God, just as Aaron was.
5-So Christ also did not take upon himself the glory of
becoming a high priest. But God said to him, "You are
my son; today I have become your Father.
6-And he says in another place, "You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek.
Again, Jesus proven true- his Father IS the only true God.
Only God, appointing an Eternal Priest- His Son.
Hebrews 7:23-Now there have been many of those priests,
since death prevented them from continuing in office;
24-but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent
priesthood.
25-Therefore he is able to save completely those who come
to God through him, because he always lives to intercede
for them.
Trinitarians can't see the word "through"- because they have
their Trinity Goggles on...and God isn't a Priest!
Heb 8:1-The point of what we are saying is this: We do have
such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the
throne of the Majesty in heaven,
2-and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set
up by the Lord, not by man.
Heb 9:14- How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who
through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God,
cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so
that we may serve the living God!
Once again, we have God spoken of as a seperate Person
from Christ. No 'God-the-Son', no 'God-the-Ghost'.
No 'Ghost' is "the Majesty". Jesus isn't; he sits NEXT to Him!
Just the True God, His Son Christ, and the eternal spirit-
"the Power of the Most High".
Heb 9:24- For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with
human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he
entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God's presence.
" In God's presence". Meaningless phrase if Jesus was the
One True God- as all his words would be.
We know better!
Heb 10:12- But when THIS priest had offered for all time
one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,
13- and since that time he waits for his enemies to
be made his footstool.
No Triune ANYTHING! ANYWHERE!
Just the "ONLY TRUE God" placing His son at his Right Hand, waiting
for his Father to tell him the Appointed Time!
Heb 12:1- Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud
of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin
that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race
marked out for us,
2- fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. For the
joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and
sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
The Joy was the joy of making his God & Father happy, and
saving mankind from his own fate!
Contrary to Trinity Garble, Jesus did not return to Heaven as the
Supreme, Almighty God, and sit on the Throne....LOOK at
what is SAID- if you want Truth!
Heb 12:18- You have not come to a mountain that can be touched
and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm;
19- to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those
who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them,
20- because they could not bear what was commanded: "If even an
animal touches the mountain, it must be stoned to death."
21- The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, "I am trembling with fear."
22- But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon
thousands of angels in joyful assembly,
23- to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven.
You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the
righteous made perfect,
24- to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled
blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
Where is the Trinity? Will it EVER show up???? Heh.
Seen here are Heavely Jerusalem, angels, God....and Jesus.
No 'God-the-Son', no 'God-the-Ghost'.
Heb 13:20- Now may the God of peace, who through the blood of
the eternal covenant brought back from the dead our Lord Jesus,
that great Shepherd of the sheep,
21- equip you with everything good for doing His will, and may He
work in us what is pleasing to Him, through Jesus Christ, to
whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
There is God, and mankind communicates with Him thru, not
ANOTHER God, but thru Jesus! And ntice it CLEARLY states that Jesus did
NOT resurrect himself- bur his God and Father did!
James 1:1- James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ,
To the twelve tribes scattered among the nations: Greetings!
James, one of Christs brothers (of Mary & Joseph) opens his letter
stating his devotion to the Only True God- AND His Son.
No 'God-the-Son', no 'God-the-Ghost'.
James 2:19- You believe that there is one God. Good!
Even the demons believe that, and shudder.
Hah! - Even the demons know, but not churchoids!
They've been conned into believing 'THEY' are a 'Three-in-One' God- like the motor oil!
EVERY worshipper of the True God knew God as
simply ONE Person- NEVER Three!
Not ONE SINGLE reference to a Trinity, a Triune
ANYTHING!
Never is the term 'God-the-Son' used!
Never is a 'Holy Ghost' worshipped!
James 4:8-Come near to God and HE will come near to you.
Now, I must remind all, it NEVER says "THEY" will come
near you.... And if the 'Triune Godhead' of CHURCHianity
were True...it always WOULD!
1 Pet 1:18- For you know that it was not with perishable
things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed
from the empty way of life handed down to you from
your ancestors,
19- but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without
blemish or defect. 20- He was chosen before the creation
of the world, but was revealed in these last times for
your sake.
21- Through him you believe in God, who raised him from
the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope
are in God.
Again,he is shown NOT to literally be God, and didn't resurrect himself- GOD did!
Do you REALLY believe that?
1 Pet 2:4- As you come to him, the living Stone rejected
by human beings but chosen by God and precious to him
5- you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual
house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices
acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
Again the word "THROUGH" God, and chosen "BY" God!
Christ and God- not God and God.
1 Pet 3:18- For Christ also suffered once for sins,
the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God.
To bring us to WHO?
They say Jesus IS God!
1 Peter 3:21- and this water symbolizes baptism that now
saves you also not the removal of dirt from the body but
the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by
the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
22- who has gone into heaven and is at God's right hand
with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.
There is God- and there is Jesus, on the Right Hand.
No Ghost on the 'Left Hand'!
And churchianity doesn't even believe Jesus DIED- as he SAID he would-
-thus don't believe he was ev er resurrected!
2 Peter 1:2- Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the knowledge of God >>> and <<< of Jesus our Lord.
As ALWAYS, God is spoken of separately from Jesus- and no 'Ghost' is referred to.
2 Pet 1:17- For He received from God the Father honor and
glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent
Glory: �This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.�
18- And we heard this voice which came from heaven when
we were with Him on the holy mountain.
With the trinity Goggles on, it reads:
"God received from God honor and glory when God spoke
to Himself when...."
HooHah! Comedy Central be jealous!
1 John 4:12- No man hath beheld God at any time: if we
love one another, God abideth in us, and his love is
perfected in us.
Man saw Christ.
No man has seen God.
Connect the dots!
1 John 5:20- We know also that the Son of God has come
and has given us understanding, so that we may know him
who is true. And we are in him who is true by being in his
Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
With the trinity Goggles on,all this blends and blurs together:
"God has come, and has given us this understanding, that we may
know God. And we are IN God, by being IN God. God is the True God
and eternal life!"...
Notice, that Jesus came to help us KNOW his God and Father.
Same thing today- except that the Spirit has empowered us
to do it, as Jesus had prophesied! (Matt 24:14)
3 John 11- Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what
is good. Anyone who does what is good is from God.
Anyone who does what is evil has not seen God.
He we clearly 'see' that Christians "see" God, not with the
eyes, but with the heart and spirit.
"NO man ha EVER seen God" , as repeated by Christ and John,
is referring to His REAL form- likely inconceivable POWER,
far more so that an atomic explosion which would burn the
retinas to a crisp!
The Book of Revelation opens up with words that IMMEDIATELY
destroy the Trinity Fable:
Rev 1:1- The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him
to show unto his servants, even the things which must shortly
come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto
his servant John...
WHO gave it to Jesus? God-the Ghost, or the
Nameless 'God-the-Father' of Church Spin?
No GOD did! Not another God, not a part of Jesus- but
" the Only TRUE God " as Jesus himself referred to him!
Rev 1:4- John to the seven churches that are in Asia:
Grace to you and peace, from him who is and who
was and who is to come; and from the seven Spirits
that are before his throne;
5-and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,
the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings
of the earth. Unto him that loveth us, and loosed us
from our sins by his blood;
6- and he made us to be a kingdom, to be priests unto
his God and Father; to him be the glory and the
dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Regardless of how the antichrists refuse to answer the
question "Does Jesus HAVE a God", Jesus HIMSELF
answered it MANY times, such as in Revelation!
[John]
7- Behold, he cometh with clouds; and
every eye shall see him, and they also
which pierced him: and all kindreds
of the earth shall wail because of him.
Even so, Amen.
[God]
8- I am Alpha and Omega, the
beginning and the ending, saith the
Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
[John]
9- I John, who also am your brother,
and companion in tribulation,
and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is
called Patmos, for the word of God,
and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
[John]
10- I was in the Spirit on the Lord's
day, and heard behind me a
great voice, as of a trumpet,
[God]
11- Saying, I am Alpha and Omega,
the first and the last: and, What
thou seest, write in a book, and
send it unto the seven churches
which are in Asia; unto Ephesus,
and unto Smyrna, and unto
Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and
unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia,
and unto Laodicea.
[John]
12-And I turned to see the voice that
spake with me. And being turned,
I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13- And in the midst of the seven
candlesticks one like unto the Son
of man, clothed with a garment
down to the foot, and girt about the
paps with a golden girdle.
[Christ]
14-His head and his hairs were white
like wool, as white as snow;
and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15-And his feet like unto fine brass,
as if they burned in a furnace;
and his voice as the sound of
many waters.
[God's voice was like a great Trumpet- Christ's as many waters]
[John]
16-And he had in his right hand
seven stars: and out of his mouth
went a sharp twoedged sword: and
his countenance was as the sun
shineth in his strength.
17- And when I saw him, I fell at his feet
as dead. And he laid his right hand
upon me, saying unto me,
Fear not; I am the first and the last:
[Similar, but different from the
"Alpha and Omega"]
[Jesus]
18- I am he that liveth, and was dead;
and, behold, I am alive for evermore,
Amen; and have the keys
of hell and of death.
Notice Rev 1:10? - I was in the Spirit
on the Lord's day...
Was John inside the 'Ghost-God', or
was he under the
influence of the Holy Power from God?
(TOUGH one!) Heh!
Rev 2:26- And he that overcometh, and he that keepeth
my works unto the end, to him will I give authority
over the nations:
27- and he shall rule them with a rod of iron, as the
vessels of the potter are broken to shivers; as I also
have received of my Father...
Here Jesus re-affirms the prophecy of Daniel 2:44, as
well as, again, that this authority was GIVEN Him.
No one can give God authority! He always has- and always
WILL have the ULTIMATE authority!!!
Rev 3:12- He that overcometh, I will make him a pillar
in the temple of
my God,
and he shall go out thence no more: and I will write
upon him the name of
my God,
and the name of the city of
my God,
the new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven
from
my God,
and mine own new name.
Here, FOUR TIMES IN A ROW Jesus says he has a God!
Can it be any PLAINER?
Rev 3:14- And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write:
These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness,
the beginning of the creation of God...
The BEGINNING of CREATION (or "creature" -created thing-
in the KJV).
Clergy try to say this is just a Title of Authority.
They HAVE no "Ear" that "Hears" what the Spirit says!
Even if "Beginning" WAS a title (it's NOT) it still shows
that Christ is a PART of Creation!
Thus they have to warp the meaning of EVERY term
God uses to describes His "Son", his "Only-Begotten".
Thus the complete dumming-down of churchoids who
trust THEM, instead of Christ!
The Spirirt enables the sincere to see thru the illusion!
Rev 4:9- And when the living creatures shall give glory and
honor and thanks to him that sitteth on the throne, to
him that liveth for ever and ever,
10- the four and twenty elders shall fall down before him
that sitteth on the throne, and shall worship him that liveth
for ever and ever, and shall cast their crowns before the
throne, saying,
11- Worthy art thou, our Lord and our God, to receive the
glory and the honor and the power: for thou didst create
all things, and because of thy will they were, and were created.
With the Trinity Goggles on, it reads:
"to THEM that sit on the Thrones"
"to Them that live for ever"
"Worthy art thou, our Gods, to receive the
glory and the honor and the power: for thou
Three didst create all things..."
Only ONE PERSON is being referred to as God- as always!
Rev 5:1- And I saw in the right hand of him that sat
on the throne
(God. No Ghost-God, nor 'God-the-Son')
a book written within and on the back, close sealed with
seven seals.
4- And I wept much, because no one was found worthy to
open the book, or to look thereon:
5- and one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not; behold,
the Lion that is of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David,
hath overcome to open the book and the seven seals thereof.
6- And I saw in the midst of the throne and of the four living
creatures, and in the midst of the elders, a Lamb standing,
as though it had been slain, having seven horns, and seven
eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent forth into
all the earth.
7- And he came, and he taketh it out of the right hand of him
that sat on the throne.
(Christ takes it from God. Not God takes it from Gods.
- no Ghost-God is ever seen.)
8- And when he had taken the book, the four living creatures
and the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb,
having each one a harp, and golden bowls full of incense,
which are the prayers of the saints.
9- And they sing a new song, saying, Worthy art thou to take
the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou was slain,
and didst purchase unto God with thy blood men of every
tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation,
(He didn't purchase them for HIMSELF- but for GOD!)
10- and madest them to be unto our God a kingdom and
priests; and they reign upon earth.
(They, too, refer to God being a Person other than Christ.
The churches also say Earth will be destroyed)
11- And I saw, and I heard a voice of many angels round
about the throne and the living creatures and the elders;
and the number of them was ten thousand times ten
thousand, and thousands of thousands;
12- saying with a great voice, Worthy is the Lamb that hath
been slain to receive the power, and riches, and wisdom,
and might and honor, and glory, and blessing.
(He RECEIVES it. NOT regains it!)
13- And every created thing which is in the heaven, and on
the earth, and under the earth, and on the sea, and all
things are in them, heard I saying, Unto him that sitteth
on the throne, and unto the Lamb, be the blessing, and
the honor, and the glory, and the dominion, for ever and ever.
14- And the four living creatures said, Amen. And the elders
fell down and worshipped.
(AND to the Lamb. God, and Lamb. No Ghost!)
Rev 6:15- And the kings of the earth, and the princes, and
the chief captains, and the rich, and the strong, and every
bondman and freeman, hid themselves in the caves and
in the rocks of the mountains;
16- and they say to the mountains and to the rocks, Fall on
us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the
throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17- for the great day of their wrath is come; and who is able
to stand?
Notice that God and Christ are two seperate persons- and
nowhere is there EVER seen a 3rd person- that ridiculous
Ghost-God of CHURCHianity!
God and Christ work together in Perfect Unity!
Rev 7:9- After these things I saw, and behold, a great
multitude, which no man could number, out of every
nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues,
standing before the throne and before the Lamb,
(The Lamb is not on the Throne- God is.)
arrayed in white robes, and palms in their hands;
10- and they cry with a great voice, saying, Salvation
unto our God who sitteth on the throne,
and unto the Lamb.
(Salvation is ascribed to them BOTH: God willed it,
His Son carried it out.)
11- And all the angels were standing round about
the throne, and about the elders and the four
living creatures; and they fell before the throne
on their faces, and worshipped God,
12- saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom,
and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and
might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
(And again- NO Ghost-God is EVER seen here, nor
ANYWHERE else in the ENTIRE Bible!
There is, as Jesus put it only "One TRUE God"!)
"Salvation we owe to the one
seated on the throne, AND
to the Lamb"!
God, too, is referred to as
our Savior.
He is the one who SENT Christ
to save us, so Salvation is
rightly ascribed to them BOTH.
Christ now rules as King- only
God did, until He handed it
to Christ.
God is the First and Last as to
Supreme Authority & Power.
Christ is First and Last as far as
the first resurrected to
Eternal Life by God, as the
Savior and King provided by
his God.
The double-vision of Church
Dogma causes the vision of
churchoids who trust
CHURCHES instead of GOD
to blur them together- DESPITE
both Jesus himself and ENDLESS
scripture saying God GAVE
these postions to Jesus,
that he was raised ABOVE
HIS FELLOWS!
(Fellow angels)
Only those wanting TRUTH can-
and DO- see!
Rev 7:15 -Therefore are they before the throne of God;
and they serve him day and night in his temple: and
He that sitteth on the throne shall spread his tabernacle
over them.
16- They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more;
neither shall the sun strike upon them, nor any heat:
17- for the Lamb that is in the midst of the throne...
( "Midst"- in other translations= "center". God SITS on this
Throne- not a literal throne, but a symbol of Ruling-
Christ is in it's midst, symbolic of ruling with and by God's
Power. )
... shall be their shepherd, and shall guide them unto
fountains of waters of life: and God shall wipe away
every tear from their eyes.
(Repeated at Ch 21)
Rev 11:15- And the seventh angel sounded; and there
followed great voices in heaven, and they said,
The kingdom of the world is become the kingdom of
our Lord, and of his Christ: and he shall reign for
ever and ever.
God and Christ rule Together- as Father & Son!
(No Holy Ghosty)
Rev 12:10- And I heard a great voice in heaven, saying,
Now is come the salvation, and the power, and the
kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ:
for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who
accuseth them before our God day and night.
Christ means "Anointed One", one given authority.
No one ever has- or ever WILL give God authority;
it is something He has ALWAYS had.
Jesus is the Anointed One (Christ), the one appointed
King...by God!
There you have it!
Every scripture from Genesis thru Revelation that gives
insight to the Identity of God, Christ, and the Power of
the Most High- the Holy Spirit!
May all reading this who are sincere HEAR what God
tells us in these passages!
Agape,
the Mad JW
Often,the Clergy whip a scripture out of context to perform
their magic trick, as with this-
Titus 2:10-Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in all things.
(They never include the REST)
11-For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12-Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13-Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God >>> AND <<< our Savior Jesus Christ ,14-Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
They say; Jesus is called the Great God! He isn't!
How pathetic, With all the scriptures we have just covered, no thinking person will see THAT (the two are set apart)- and then we have the context:
"AND our savior., Jesus Christ.."
Jehovah saved us by providing His son as Savior- so they are BOTH our Saviors, as noted in Rev 7:9- After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no man could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10- and crying out with a loud voice,
�Salvation belongs to our God who sits upon the throne, ... >>> AND <<< to the Lamb!�
Jesus is referred to as "the Grace of God". (vs11)
As shown from previous scripture God and Christ are both given credit for our salvation; God for SENDING His Son- and, of course, Jesus, His son, who carried out his Father's will!
Titus 3:4- But when the kindness of God our Saviour, and his love
toward man, appeared,
5- not by works done in righteousness, which we did ourselves, but
according to his mercy he saved us, through the washing of regeneration
and renewing of the holy spirit,
6- which he poured out upon us richly, through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
7- that, being justified by his grace, we might be made heirs according
to the hope of eternal life.
Here we see the Holy Spirit is POURED OUT.
That is not a description of a Person, a Ghost-God!
The Holy Spirit; the awesome "Power of the Highest" (Gabriel)!
The NEXT verses in the first chapter of Hebrews are always
quoted out of their CONTEXT, which is what is needed to
UNDERSTAND them!
Is Jesus the Almighty?
Why is he to be worshipped (given the highest honor)?
Was he EVER a Messenger (Angel) of God?
Let's see:
Heb 1:1- In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets
at many times and in various ways,
2- but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he
appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.
3- The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of
his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided
purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
4- So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has
inherited is superior to theirs.
Now, has CHURCHanese also given a new definition to the
word "BECAME"?
Notice how Jesus isn't somehow 'returned' to 'Godhood'?
Notice how he is spoken of a an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PERSON than
that of God?
Heb 1:5- For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son,
This day have I begotten thee? and again, I will be to him a Father, And
he shall be to me a Son?
(This question is ANSWERED in the next verses)
6- And when He again bringeth in the firstborn into the world He saith, And
let all the angels of God worship (or show the Highest Honor to) him.
7- And of the angels He saith, Who maketh his angels winds, And his
ministers a flame a fire:
8- but of the Son He saith, Thy throne, O God, (Or "God is thy Throne")
is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of
thy kingdom.
9 -Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, thy
God, hath anointed thee With the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Does the Almighty HAVE a God? Of COURSE not!
Otherwise He wouldn't BE "ALMIGHTY".
Jehovah is the God of Jesus Christ!
And notice how the angels are referred to as Christ's
"fellows", or equals...until this position is GIVEN to Jesus?
Hebrews 2:9 -But we behold him who hath been made a little lower
than the angels, even Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned
with glory and honor, that by the grace of God he should taste of
death for every man.
Notice that God is NEVER referred to as the one coming in the flesh
and dying- it is ALWAYS His own Son...
Heb 3:1-Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling, fix
your thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and high priest whom we confess.
2-He was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as Moses was faithful
in all God's house.
Who can appoint God to ANYTHING?
Can a priest be a priest to HIMSELF?
Only in CHURCHese!
God appointed JESUS as High Priest, His Word, and perfected his
training as such after Christ BECAME a man!
Heb 4:12-For the word of God is living and active.
Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates
even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow;
it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
(Notice how the scripture, like the Holy Spirit, are referred
to as doing things like a living person?)
13-Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight.
Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the
eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
14-Therefore, since we have a great high priest who
has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God,
let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.
15-For we do not have a high priest who is unable to
sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have
one who has been tempted in every way, just as
we are�yet was without sin.
16-Let us then approach the throne of grace with
confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find
grace to help us in our time of need.
Jesus. the High Priest between God and Man.
NOT God, but His SON.
Heb 5:1-Every high priest is selected from among men and
is appointed to represent them in matters related to God,
to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins.
2-He is able to deal gently with those who are ignorant and
are going astray, since he himself is subject to weakness.
3-This is why he has to offer sacrifices for his own sins, as
well as for the sins of the people.
4-No one takes this honor upon himself; he must be called
by God, just as Aaron was.
5-So Christ also did not take upon himself the glory of
becoming a high priest. But God said to him, "You are
my Son; today I have become your Father.
6-And he says in another place, "You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek.
No God-the-Son.
No God-the-Ghost.
Only God, appointing an Eternal Priest- His Son.
Hebrews 7:23-Now there have been many of those priests,
since death prevented them from continuing in office;
24-but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent
priesthood.
25-Therefore he is able to save completely those who come
to God through him, because he always lives to intercede
for them.
Trinitarians can't see the word "through"- because they have
their Trinity Goggles on...
Heb 8:1-The point of what we are saying is this: We do have
such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the
throne of the Majesty in heaven,
2-and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set
up by the Lord, not by man.
Heb 9:14- How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who
through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God,
cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so
that we may serve the living God!
Once again, we have God spoken of as a seperate Person
from Christ. No 'God-the-Son', no 'God-the-Ghost'.
No 'Ghost' is "the Majesty". Jesus isn't; he sits NEXT to Him!
Just the True God, His Son Christ, and the Eternal Spirit-
"the Power of the Most High".
Heb 9:24- For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with
human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he
entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God's presence.
" In God's presence". Meaningless phrase if Jesus was the
One True God- as all his words would be.
We know better!
Heb 10:12- But when this priest had offered for all time
one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand
of God,
13- and since that time he waits for his enemies to
be made his footstool.
No 'God-the-Son', nor 'God-the-Spook'!
Just the "ONLY TRUE God" placing His Son at his Right Hand, waiting
for his Father to tell him the Appointed Time!
Heb 12:1- Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud
of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin
that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race
marked out for us,
2- fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. For the
joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and
sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
The Joy was the joy of making his God & Father happy, and
saving mankind from his own fate!
Contrary to Trinity Garble, Jesus did not return to Heaven as the
Supreme, Almighty God, and sit on the Throne....LOOK at
what is SAID- if you want Truth!
Heb 12:18- You have not come to a mountain that can be touched
and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm;
19- to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those
who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them,
20- because they could not bear what was commanded: "If even an
animal touches the mountain, it must be stoned to death."
21- The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, "I am trembling with fear."
22- But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon
thousands of angels in joyful assembly,
23- to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven.
You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the
righteous made perfect,
24- to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled
blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
Where is the Trinity? Will it EVER show up???? Heh.
Seen here are Heavely Jerusalem, angels, God....and Jesus.
No 'God-the-Son', no 'God-the-Ghost'.
Heb 13:20- Now may the God of peace, who through the blood of
the eternal covenant brought back from the dead our Lord Jesus,
that great Shepherd of the sheep,
21- equip you with everything good for doing His will, and may He
work in us what is pleasing to Him, through Jesus Christ, to
whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
There is God, and mankind communicates with Him thru, not
ANOTHER God, but thru Jesus!
James 1:1- James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ,
To the twelve tribes scattered among the nations: Greetings!
James, one of Christs brothers (of Mary & Joseph) opens his letter
stating his devotion to the Only True God- AND His Son.
No 'God-the-Son', no 'God-the-Ghost'.
James 2:19- You believe that there is one God. Good!
Even the demons believe that�and shudder.
Hah! - Even the demons know, but not churchoids who gullibly
believe anything the clergy spout!
EVERY worshipper of the True God knew God as
simply ONE Person- NEVER Three!
Not ONE SINGLE reference to a Trinity, a Triune
ANYTHING!
Never is the term 'God-the-Son' used!
Never is a 'Holy Ghost' worshipped!
James 4:8-Come near to God and HE will come near to you.
Now, I must remind all, it NEVER says "THEY" will come
near you.... And if the 'Triune Godhead' of CHURCHianity
were True...it always WOULD!
1 Pet 1:18- For you know that it was not with perishable
things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed
from the empty way of life handed down to you from
your ancestors,
19- but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without
blemish or defect. 20- He was chosen before the creation
of the world, but was revealed in these last times for
your sake.
21- Through him you believe in God, who raised him from
the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope
are in God.
Again, let's read this with the Trinity Goggles on:
"You were redeeemed with the very Bloof of our Triune Lords.
Through Them you believe in HIM, who raised himself from
the dead and glorified himself, and so your faith and hope
are in Them."
Do you REALLY believe that?
1 Pet 2:4- As you come to him, the living Stone�rejected
by human beings but chosen by God and precious to him�
5- you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual
house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices
acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
Trinity Goggles:"offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God
through... GOD?"....Nah!
I never thought there was anything GOOD about the Trinity
Goggles- until I tried them on again!
They sure reveal the Corruption of the Dogma rather quickly,
don't they?
1 Pet 3:18- For Christ also suffered once for sins,
the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God.
"For God also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous,
to bring you to Himself and a Ghost"? Oh, cmon, Trinnies, Onnies!
Nope! Total nonsense, as usual!
1 Peter 3:21- and this water symbolizes baptism that now
saves you also-not the removal of dirt from the body but
the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by
the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
22- who has gone into heaven and is at God's right hand,
with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.
Churchianity teaches Jesus NEVER died, was NEVER resurrected; "it was just the flesh!"
TRUE Christians know Jesus told all he was surrendering, laying down his very LIFE!
There is God- and there is Jesus, on the Right Hand.
No Spook on the 'Left Hand'!
2 Peter 1:2- Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the knowledge of God >>> and <<< of Jesus our Lord.
As ALWAYS, God is spoken of separately from Jesus- and no 'Ghost' is referred to...
2 Pet 1:17- For he received from God the Father honor and
glory when such a voice came to him from the Excellent
Glory: " This is My beloved son, in whom I am well pleased"
18- And we heard this voice which came from heaven when
we were with him on the holy mountain.
With the trinity Goggles on, it reads:
"God received from God honor and glory when God spoke
to Himself when...."
Yecch!
1 John 4:12- No man hath beheld God at any time: if we
love one another, God abideth in us, and his love is
perfected in us.
Man saw Christ.
No man has seen God.
Connect the dots!
1 John 5:20- We know also that the Son of God has come
and has given us understanding, so that we may know him
who is true. And we are in him who is true by being in his
Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
With the trinity Goggles on,all this blends and blurs together:
"God has come, and has given us this understanding, that we may
know God. And we are IN God, by being IN God. God is the True God
and eternal life!"...
Notice, that Jesus came to help us KNOW his God and Father.
Same thing today- except that the Spirit has empowered us
to do it, as Jesus had prophesied! (Matt 24:14)
The Book of Revelation opens up with words that IMMEDIATELY
destroy the Trinity Fable:
Rev 1:1- The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him
to show unto his servants, even the things which must shortly
come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto
his servant John...
WHO gave it to Jesus? God-the Ghost, or the
Nameless 'God-the-Father' of Church Spin?
No GOD did! Not another God, not a part of Jesus- but
" the Only TRUE God " as Jesus himself referred to him!
Rev 1:4- John to the seven churches that are in Asia:
Grace to you and peace, from him who is and who
was and who is to come; and from the seven Spirits
that are before his throne;
5-and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,
the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings
of the earth. Unto him that loveth us, and loosed us
from our sins by his blood;
6- and he made us to be a kingdom, to be priests unto
his God and Father; to him be the glory and the
dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Regardless of how the antichrists refuse to answer the
question "Does Jesus HAVE a God", Jesus HIMSELF
answered it MANY times, such as in Revelation!
[John]
7- Behold, he cometh with clouds; and
every eye shall see him, and they also
which pierced him: and all kindreds
of the earth shall wail because of him.
Even so, Amen.
[God]
8- I am Alpha and Omega, the
beginning and the ending, saith the
Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
[John]
9- I John, who also am your brother,
and companion in tribulation,
and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is
called Patmos, for the word of God,
and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
[John]
10- I was in the Spirit on the Lord's
day, and heard behind me a
great voice, as of a trumpet,
[God]
11- Saying, I am Alpha and Omega,
the first and the last: and, What
thou seest, write in a book, and
send it unto the seven churches
which are in Asia; unto Ephesus,
and unto Smyrna, and unto
Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and
unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia,
and unto Laodicea.
[John]
12-And I turned to see the voice that
spake with me. And being turned,
I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13- And in the midst of the seven
candlesticks one like unto the Son
of man, clothed with a garment
down to the foot, and girt about the
paps with a golden girdle.
[Christ]
14-His head and his hairs were white
like wool, as white as snow;
and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15-And his feet like unto fine brass,
as if they burned in a furnace;
and his voice as the sound of
many waters.
[God's voice was like a great Trumpet- Christ's as many waters]
[John]
16-And he had in his right hand
seven stars: and out of his mouth
went a sharp twoedged sword: and
his countenance was as the sun
shineth in his strength.
17- And when I saw him, I fell at his feet
as dead. And he laid his right hand
upon me, saying unto me,
Fear not; I am the first and the last:
[Similar, but different from the
"Alpha and Omega"]
[Jesus]
18- I am he that liveth, and was dead;
and, behold, I am alive for evermore,
Amen; and have the keys
of hell and of death.
Notice Rev 1:10? - I was in the Spirit
on the Lord's day...
Was John inside the 'Ghost-God', or
was he under the
influence of the Holy Power from God?
(TOUGH one!) Heh!
Rev 2:26- And he that overcometh, and he that keepeth
my works unto the end, to him will I give authority
over the nations:
27- and he shall rule them with a rod of iron, as the
vessels of the potter are broken to shivers; as I also
have received of my Father...
Here Jesus re-affirms the prophecy of Daniel 2:44, as
well as, again, that this authority was GIVEN Him.
No one can give God authority! He always has- and always
WILL have the ULTIMATE authority!!!
Rev 3:12- He that overcometh, I will make him a pillar
in the temple of
my God,
and he shall go out thence no more: and I will write
upon him the name of
my God,
and the name of the city of
my God,
the new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven
from
my God,
and mine own new name.
Here, FOUR TIMES IN A ROW Jesus says he has a God!
Can it be any PLAINER?
Rev 3:14- And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write:
These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness,
the beginning of the creation of God...
The BEGINNING of CREATION (or "creature" -created thing-
in the KJV).
Clergy try to say this is just a Title of Authority.
They HAVE no "Ear" that "Hears" what the spirit says!
Even if "Beginning" WAS a title (it's NOT) it still shows
that Christ is a PART of Creation!
Thus they have to warp the meaning of EVERY term
God uses to describes His "son", his "only-begotten".
Thus the complete dumbing-down of churchoids who
trust THEM, instead of Christ!
The spirit enables the sincere to see thru the illusion!
Rev 4:9- And when the living creatures shall give glory and
honor and thanks to Him that sitteth on the throne, to
Him that liveth for ever and ever,
10- the four and twenty elders shall fall down before Him
that sitteth on the throne, and shall worship Him that liveth
for ever and ever, and shall cast their crowns before the
throne, saying,
11- Worthy art thou, our Lord (Used for "Jehovah" in Koine Greek) and our God,
to receive the glory and the honor and the power: for Thou didst create
all things, and because of Thy will they were, and were created.
With the Trinity Goggles on, it reads:
"to THEM that sit on the Thrones"
"to Them that live for ever"
"Worthy art thou, our Gods, to receive the
glory and the honor and the power: for thou
Three didst create all things..."
Only ONE PERSON is being referred to as God- as always!
Rev 5:1- And I saw in the right hand of him that sat
on the throne
(God. No Ghost-God, nor 'God-the-Son')
a book written within and on the back, close sealed with
seven seals.
4- And I wept much, because no one was found worthy to
open the book, or to look thereon:
5- and one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not; behold,
the Lion that is of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David,
hath overcome to open the book and the seven seals thereof.
6- And I saw in the midst of the throne and of the four living
creatures, and in the midst of the elders, a Lamb standing,
as though it had been slain, having seven horns, and seven
eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent forth into
all the earth.
7- And he came, and he taketh it out of the right hand of him
that sat on the throne.
(Christ takes it from God. Not God takes it from Gods.
- no Ghost-God is ever seen.)
8- And when he had taken the book, the four living creatures
and the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb,
having each one a harp, and golden bowls full of incense,
which are the prayers of the saints.
9- And they sing a new song, saying, Worthy art thou to take
the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou was slain,
and didst purchase unto God with thy blood men of every
tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation,
(He didn't purchase them for HIMSELF- but for GOD!)
10- and madest them to be unto our God a kingdom and
priests; and they reign upon earth.
(They, too, refer to God being a Person other than Christ.
The churches also say Earth will be destroyed)
11- And I saw, and I heard a voice of many angels round
about the throne and the living creatures and the elders;
and the number of them was ten thousand times ten
thousand, and thousands of thousands;
12- saying with a great voice, Worthy is the Lamb that hath
been slain to receive the power, and riches, and wisdom,
and might and honor, and glory, and blessing.
(He RECEIVES it. NOT regains it!)
13- And every created thing which is in the heaven, and on
the earth, and under the earth, and on the sea, and all
things are in them, heard I saying, Unto him that sitteth
on the throne, and unto the Lamb, be the blessing, and
the honor, and the glory, and the dominion, for ever and ever.
14- And the four living creatures said, Amen. And the elders
fell down and worshipped.
(AND to the Lamb. God, and Lamb. No Ghost!)
Rev 6:15- And the kings of the earth, and the princes, and
the chief captains, and the rich, and the strong, and every
bondman and freeman, hid themselves in the caves and
in the rocks of the mountains;
16- and they say to the mountains and to the rocks, Fall on
us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the
throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17- for the great day of their wrath is come; and who is able
to stand?
Notice that God and Christ are two seperate persons- and
nowhere is there EVER seen a 3rd person- that ridiculous
Ghost-God of CHURCHianity!
God and Christ work together in Perfect Unity!
Rev 7:9- After these things I saw, and behold, a great
multitude, which no man could number, out of every
nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues,
standing before the throne and before the Lamb,
(The Lamb is not on the Throne- God is.)
arrayed in white robes, and palms in their hands;
10- and they cry with a great voice, saying, Salvation
unto our God who sitteth on the throne,
and unto the Lamb.
(Salvation is ascribed to them BOTH: God willed it,
His Son carried it out.)
11- And all the angels were standing round about
the throne, and about the elders and the four
living creatures; and they fell before the throne
on their faces, and worshipped God,
12- saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom,
and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and
might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
(And again- NO Ghost-God is EVER seen here, nor
ANYWHERE else in the ENTIRE Bible!
There is, as Jesus put it only "One TRUE God"!)
"Salvation we owe to the one
seated on the throne, AND
to the Lamb"!
God, too, is referred to as
our Savior.
He is the one who SENT Christ
to save us, so Salvation is
rightly ascribed to them BOTH.
Christ now rules as King- only
God did, until He handed it
to Christ.
God is the First and Last as to
Supreme Authority & Power.
Christ is First and Last as far as
the first resurrected to
Eternal Life by God, as the
Savior and King provided by
his God.
The double-vision of Church
Dogma causes the vision of
churchoids who trust
CHURCHES instead of GOD
to blur them together- DESPITE
both Jesus himself and ENDLESS
scripture saying God GAVE
these postions to Jesus,
that he was raised ABOVE
HIS FELLOWS!
(Fellow angels)
Only those wanting TRUTH can-
and DO- see!
Rev 7:15 -Therefore are they before the throne of God;
and they serve him day and night in his temple: and
He that sitteth on the throne shall spread his tabernacle
over them.
16- They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more;
neither shall the sun strike upon them, nor any heat:
17- for the Lamb that is in the midst of the throne...
( "Midst"- in other translations= "center". God SITS on this
Throne- not a literal throne, but a symbol of Ruling-
Christ is in it's midst, symbolic of ruling with and by God's
Power. )
... shall be their shepherd, and shall guide them unto
fountains of waters of life: and God shall wipe away
every tear from their eyes.
(Repeated at Ch 21)
Rev 11:15- And the seventh angel sounded; and there
followed great voices in heaven, and they said,
The kingdom of the world is become the kingdom of
our Lord, and of his Christ: and he shall reign for
ever and ever.
God and Christ rule Together- as Father & Son!
(No Holy Ghosty)
Rev 12:10- And I heard a great voice in heaven, saying,
Now is come the salvation, and the power, and the
kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ:
for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who
accuseth them before our God day and night.
Christ means "Anointed One", one given authority.
No one ever has- or ever WILL give God authority;
it is something He has ALWAYS had.upon
Jesus is the Anointed One (Christ), the one appointed
King...by God!
There you have it!
Every scripture from Genesis thru Revelation that gives insight to the Identity of God, Christ, and the Power of the Most High- the holy spirit! Since I am always reading thru the Bible, I will add any I may have missed- and will add any you fins you might find that I missed- if you e-me!
BOTTOM LINE: Since Jesus himself said it means Eternal Life to KNOW God, the Bible would be FULL of all the details of a Triune God, if such a Monstrosity existed; it DOESN'T. All Churchianity can do is weave their spin and deception!
May all reading this who are sincere HEAR what God tells us in these passages!
Agape,
the Mad JW
Every scripture from Genesis thru Revelation that gives insight to the Identity of God, Christ, and the Power of the Most High- the holy spirit! Since I am always reading thru the Bible, I will add any I may have missed- and will add any you fins you might find that I missed- if you e-me!
BOTTOM LINE: Since Jesus himself said it means Eternal Life to KNOW God, the Bible would be FULL of all the details of a Triune God, if such a Monstrosity existed; it DOESN'T. All Churchianity can do is weave their spin and deception!
May all reading this who are sincere HEAR what God tells us in these passages!
Agape,
the Mad JW